Dan Williams schrieb: > On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 21:10 +0100, Frank Schaefer wrote: > >> Matthew Dharm schrieb: >> >>> On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 09:11:49PM +0100, Frank Schaefer wrote: >>> >>>> Josua Dietze schrieb: >>>> >>>>> Frank Schaefer schrieb: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I really think the mode-switching should be done in the kernel and not >>>>>> in user-space for reasons of usability. >>>>>> >>>>> What is wrong with an udev rule entry? By the way, did the "eject" >>>>> command line tool work as well? >>>>> >>>> It returns an error but the device is ejected. >>>> But do you really want the users to open a terminal window and call >>>> "eject" each time they plug their device in ;) ? >>>> >>> If 'eject' worked, then why not use a simple udev entry? That way nobody >>> has to call anything by hand... >>> >>> Matt >>> >> And who will create this udev-entry ;) ? How can you make sure that this >> is done on all systems ? >> > > You can't. The distros have to make sure it works. Right, and here the trouble begins. The driver and the mode-switch needed to use it must come from the same source. Otherwise we will always have inconsistencies. > Personally, I think > these should all be in the kernel, but the kernel doesn't contain > policy. And unfortunately, for some devices (3G modems specifically) > ejecting the driver CD thing *is* policy. Hmm, policy... Talking about the large group of devices with a driver-disk-mode only: Isn't an installed driver for the device the policy itself, because it makes the driver-disk obsolete !? > Option for example protested > mightily when I sent a patch to auto-eject their driver CD, because they > apparently do use the driver CD thing to send Linux drivers and software > to a few clients. But by and large, the driver CD is completely > useless. > > Devices with fake driver CDs and how they are handled currently: > > Zydas WLAN - kernel > Huawei 3G - kernel (unusual_devs entry) > Sierra 3G - kernel (drivers/usb/serial/sierra.c) > Option 3G - udev rules, 'rezero', or usb_modeswitch > ZTE 3G - udev rules, simple 'eject' > > Dan > I can't see any real problems having device-(group-)specific policies and switching-solutions. Of course, it would be nice to have a common solution for all, but the devices are too different. Therefore the compromises we have to make should be individual (to a certain degree). Frank -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
