On Wednesday 14 October 2009 20:26:49 Luis Correia wrote: > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 18:33, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz > <bzolnier@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wednesday 14 October 2009 18:47:11 John W. Linville wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 05:28:21PM +0200, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: > >> > >> > I don't have a have a problem with it personally as long as people accept > >> > the competition.. but instead of working on _their_ projects they go around > >> > screaming at everybody who does not want to spin inside the great process > >> > designed by them.. > >> > >> Please whine somewhere else. You have the freedom to work in > >> drivers/staging all you want. You do not have the power to force us to > >> like it -- especially in a case where you are diverting attention from > >> the community-maintained drivers instead of cooperating with them. > > > > Cooperating you say. > > > > rtl8187 -- before starting the work on rtl8187se I've pinged the maintainer > > to coordinate the effort and hear his opinion on how to progress.. > > > > I've never heard back. > > > > rt2x00 -- I know that people have datasheets for some chipsets but I've > > never heard "How can we help you" etc. thing. > > I have all the datasheets that Ralink supplied to us. > All of them are PRELIMINARY and most have errors, and therefore useless. > > All useful information is in the crap drivers. > > Ralink never provide better ones, and even our 'inside guy' says the > hardware documentation guys are always very late in providing more > info. > > So, for me, it isn't lack of documentation that will ever help, believe me. > > > > > All I've ever heard was _lies_ about current state of affairs or that > > my work is in the way. > > AFAICS, your work was never questioned, at least by me. > You are welcome to work on rt2x00 , that was also never a problem. All > you would need is join in. > > Ralink also said they were commited to present drivers for new chipset > to be mac80211 compliant, we're waiting on that. > > So, you're really welcome to join the rt2x00 team Bartlomiej, the only > thing we ask is that all work should be done using the existing > rt2x00lib, rt2x00pci and rt2x00usb base 'libraries'. Well, I will still continue to work on staging drivers: - I need to understand vendor drivers better before doing any larger rt2x00 modifications. Cleaning it up is just an added value while reading it.. - I feel quite comfortable working on de-convoluting crappy code and has years of experience of doing it. - I'm still using Ralink hardware personally so I need something that provides the basic usability _now_. but since I'm also going to start adding some missing bits to rt2x00 soon I would be happy to join rt2x00 project.. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
