On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wednesday 14 October 2009 16:56:05 John W. Linville wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 04:52:40PM +0200, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: >> > On Wednesday 14 October 2009 16:09:24 John W. Linville wrote: >> > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:57:57PM +0200, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: >> > > >> > > > Several months later (after all current users are happy with the improved >> > > > drivers) the old drivers will be removed from staging.. >> > > >> > > I _really_ hope this isn't the standard. By that measure, nothing >> > > will ever leave staging as _someone_ will always have some use case >> > > that makes the other driver better for them. >> > >> > Doesn't seem to be the case with all other drivers except wireless ones >> > and the only real reason why wireless ones are so special is because of: >> > >> > "But then there's the users, who bitch about everything and simply do >> > not understand what it is at stake. >> > >> > And all this is becoming way too messy for us to handle. >> > >> > Personally all I see around me is people bitching and complaining, and >> > no code being ported." >> > >> > attitude which pretty much explains the problem.. >> > >> > Please adjust the process to fix the problem yourself or if you do not >> > want to do it just make the room for people who do. >> >> Alright Bartlomiej, you've had your say. Perhaps you should go about >> your business now. >> >> John >> >> P.S. For the record, the "But then there's the users..." quote is >> from someone else... > > ..but you're still fine with its content, right? > > I also wonder who is really taking advantage of who here (your other mail).. > > You're holding users as hostages to pressure vendors to fund your projects > and try to lure outside developers with the lovely perspective of doing > the hardest parts of said projects. > > I don't have a have a problem with it personally as long as people accept > the competition.. but instead of working on _their_ projects they go around > screaming at everybody who does not want to spin inside the great process > designed by them.. I hear fishing in Poland is great this time of year. Luis -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
