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Re: p54spi: dbm_antsignal value, is it RSSI or dbm?

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Thanks for the replies and the clarification.

I actually wouldn't mind investing some time to help sort this out,
but I have no idea where to start. For now I think I'll have to revert
to stlc45xx v1.3 and the calibration tool.

-Andre.

On 9/21/09, Gábor Stefanik <netrolller.3d@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Christian Lamparter
> <chunkeey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Monday 21 September 2009 20:19:35 Andre K wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've been using the new p54spi driver on a couple of n800s. Some
>>> specifics:
>>> Kernel : 2.6.29-omap1
>>> Wireless-compat: compat-wireless-2009-08-22
>>> OS: Maemo
>>> Options:  disabled CONFIG_RFKILL_BACKPORT_LEDS because it didn't compile
>>>
>>> The driver loads and functions normally. However, the values for the
>>> dbm_antsignal (from RadioTap header), are they RSSI or dbm? Initially
>>> I thought they were dbm since tcpdump showed negative values, which
>>> makes sense:
>>>
>>> Tcpdump:
>>> 14:08:25.312988 4469382526us tsft 2.0 Mb/s 2437 MHz (0x00a0) -49dB
>>> signal -41dB noise antenna 0 [0x0000000e] Acknowledgment
>>> RA:00:1d:e0:3d:5a:53 (oui Unknown)
>> heh, noise is higher than the signal.
>>
>>> 14:08:25.313903 4469383345us tsft 1.0 Mb/s 2437 MHz (0x00a0) 4dB
>>> signal -41dB noise antenna 0 [0x0000000e] 04:c2:08:00:07:07 (oui
>>> Unknown) Unknown SSAP 0x0a >
>>>
>>> Which shows up the first positive dbm value. Next I set up another
>>> n800 to broadcast ping packets (using hping3, since busybox's ping
>>> doesn't allow broadcast).
>>>
>>> 14:12:22.066192 13296010370us tsft 1.0 Mb/s 2437 MHz (0x00a0) 87dB
>>> signal -62dB noise antenna 0 [0x0000000e] IP 192.168.10.11 >
>>> 192.168.10.255: ICMP echo request, id 6662, seq 40704, length 8
>>> 14:12:22.092376 13296036864us tsft 18.0 Mb/s 2437 MHz (0x00c0) 82dB
>>> signal -62dB noise antenna 0 [0x0000000e] IP 192.168.10.11 >
>>> 192.168.10.255: ICMP echo request, id 6662, seq 40960, length 8
>>> 14:12:22.094787 13296037678us tsft 1.0 Mb/s 2437 MHz (0x00a0) 112dB
>>> signal -62dB noise antenna 0 [0x0000000e] IP 192.168.10.11 >
>>> 192.168.10.255: ICMP echo request, id 6662, seq 40960, length 8
>>>
>>> I get strange dbm values, in the range of 50 - 100dbm, which doesn't
>>> make much sense.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have an idea what value is being returned and if there is
>>> an error in the dbm calculation?
>>>
>>
>> no, this has been on the TODO list for some time now.
>>
>> (drivers/net/wireless/p54/txrx.c)
>> static int p54_rssi_to_dbm(struct p54_common *priv, int rssi)
>> {
>>        int band = priv->hw->conf.channel->band;
>>
>>        if (priv->rxhw != 5)
>>                return ((rssi * priv->rssical_db[band].mul) / 64 +
>>                         priv->rssical_db[band].add) / 4;
>>        else
>>                /*
>>                 * TODO: find the correct formula
>>                 */
>>                return ((rssi * priv->rssical_db[band].mul) / 64 +
>>                         priv->rssical_db[band].add) / 4;
>> }
>>
>> the .mul & .add values can be retrieved from the p54spi_eeprom.h blob.
>>
>> 0x09, 0x00, 0xad, 0xde,         /* PDR_RSSI_LINEAR_APPROXIMATION_CUSTOM
>> */
>>        0x0a, 0x01, 0x72, 0xfe, 0x1a, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00,
>>        0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00,
>>
>> => translates into: (best viewed with a fixed-width font)
>> .mul           = 0x010a = 416 (base 10)
>> .add           = 0xfe72 = -398
>> .longbow_unkn1 = 0x001a = 26
>> .longbow_unkn2 = 0x0000 = 0
>>
>> ---
>>
>> stlc45xx has a completely different phy/rf (longbow - rxhw = 5) and
>> the specs are not a part of the freely available fw iface documentation.
>>
>> here's the relevant quote from a Nokia official: "
>>> If this is so, what's so secret about the values that it needs a
>>> binary-only tool and hidden storage area? Is there legal issues with
>>> it (related to the radio device regulations)?
>>
>> Yes, this is because regulatory requirements. So thank FCC and ETSI
>> for all this. This causes much grief for all wireless vendors, for
>> example Intel had to do major changes in iwl3945 firmware for their
>> mac80211 driver. "
>> (ref:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/stlc45xx-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/msg00021.html
>> )
>
> I've actually read somewhere (AFAIK on this list, but I am not sure)
> that this is actually a misinterpretation of the FCC requirements...
>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> if you need real dBm reading for signal and noise, you have
>> to some "reverse engineering" on your own or find someone else
>> with the hardware and some spare time to burn.
>>
>> Regards,
>>        Chr
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