On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:39:58PM +0200, Johannes Berg wrote: > On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 00:23 +0400, Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov wrote: > > > > That return value is strange. > > > > The idea is that tx function can return info about errors during > > transmit (busy channel, no ACK, etc). > > Well, TX functions don't usually wait for anything so busy channel or no > ack wouldn't be possible to return there but more like a TX status, and > I think people are more used to NETDEV_TX_OK etc. return values. But > it's your choice to make, obviously. If you want to return specific > information like that though I would recommend making an enum so you get > at least some type checking (and things like 'return -1' are more > obviously wrong). Currently we do all the work from special worker threads, so it's possible for this callback to sleep. The error isn't yet propagated to upper layers (there is a huge TODO there), anyway. > > > > We've had no end to trouble with the master netdev, I suggest you look > > > into the current mac80211 code and see if you can get rid of it. > > > > What troubles w/ master netdev did you have had? I do still see the > > master devices in mac80211. IIUC, it's planned to replace (from > > management point of view) the mdev with wiphy instance, isn't it? > > Mostly the userspace API was a mess, and you can't actually _do_ > anything with the master netdev. It also doesn't see all the frames, > only outgoing. It's very strange. We were using master netdevices for several purposes: 1) ip link add link mwpanX type wpan, so that we have out-of-box support for radio additions. That's really nice thing to have. 2) for SOCK_RAW implementation that can be used to send raw packets over-the-air/receive raw packets. I think we can use af_packet for this, but I'm still not sure about packet injection. 3) On the RX, we did send a clone of skb to the mdev and clones to slave interfaces, thus overcoming your last argument. > The biggest problem is that it really clutters up the userspace API > since you can't do any netdev things with it, it's just a placeholder. > > In addition to that, you can't put anything into skb->cb, then push the > frame to the master netdev, and expect things in skb->cb to still be > there when the frame arrives at the master netdev. Not sure you do that > (I hope not because that would be very buggy), but eventually you'll > probably find that you do want that, etc. Hmm. It works for us. Could you please tell me more about the problems with skb->cb ? > IMHO it's just better practise to not use it in situations like this > where it can't be really used as a netdev. We did use it as a netdev, however we can probably live without it. I'll rethink this interface. -- With best wishes Dmitry -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html