On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez<lrodriguez@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Note: this e-mail is in a public mailing list. > > Adding Michael and David. Michael, I'd appreciate your review on this, > if possible. > > Phattanon, thanks for your review of the TH document and sharing it > with us. Please see my reply inline below. > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Phattanon Duangdara<sfalpha@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> I corrected redgb from my knowledge. > > Did you see my patch? I corrected TH to be: > > country TH: > (2402 - 2482 @ 20), (N/A, 20) > (5170 - 5250 @ 20), (3, 17) > (5250 - 5330 @ 20), (3, 20), DFS > (5490 - 5710 @ 20), (3, 20), DFS > (5735 - 5835 @ 20), (3, 30) > >> For 5150-5350 is for Indoor Use Only. >> Most of the regulartory > > What do you mean by that? Do you mean that the document refers to FCC > and ETSI/ITU standard for regulatory purposes for some items? > >> refer _either_ FCC or ETSI/ITU standard, so I >> guess that from the document 40MHz can also be used (same as US) >> because TH regulatory mostly cover all bandwidth on 40MHz. > > Are you saying the Thailand document refers to FCC for max allowed > bandwidth spacing and therefore US max bandwidth spacing should be > used (ie allow 40 MHz width channels)? I am not sure about this. But if equipment that comply with FCC standard allow to use 40MHz, I think we can because, for example Translated rule for 2.4GHz says === Rules for communication equipment that use 2.400-2.500 GHz band: Communication equipment that use 2.400-2.500 GHz band must stated and comply with one of following standards: 2.1.2.1 EN 300 328-2 : Electromagnetic compatibility and Radio spectrum Matters (ERM); Wideband Transmission systems; Data transmission equipment operating in the 2,4 GHz ISM band and using spread spectrum modulation techniques; Part 2: Harmonized EN covering essential requirements under article 3.2 of R&TTE Directive 2.1.2.2 FCC Part 15.247 : Code of Federal Regulations (USA); Title 47 Telecommunication; Chapter 1 Federal Communications Commission; Part 15 Radio Frequency Devices; Subpart C – Intentional Radiators; §15.247 Operation within the bands 902– 928 MHz, 2400–2483.5 MHz, and 5725–5850 MHz === > >> I corrected power but What a field before power is (that is now N/A below) ? > > The rules can be read as follows: > > (start - end @ max bandwidth spacing), (max antenna gain, max eirp) > >> # TH Data (2008) from >> http://www.ratchakitcha.soc.go.th/DATA/PDF/2551/E/042/64.PDF >> country TH: >> (2402 - 2472 @ 40), (N/A, 20) >> (5170 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 23), NO-OUTDOOR >> (5250 - 5330 @ 40), (N/A, 23), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS >> (5490 - 5710 @ 40), (N/A, 30), DFS >> (5735 - 5835 @ 30), (N/A, 30) Opps, my typo country TH: (2402 - 2472 @ 40), (N/A, 20) (5170 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 23), NO-OUTDOOR (5250 - 5330 @ 40), (N/A, 23), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS (5490 - 5710 @ 40), (N/A, 30), DFS (5735 - 5835 @ 40), (N/A, 30) > Michael, does your concur with this? >>> Summary I got from the document >> >> 2400-2500 MHz >> Max Power (e.i.r.p): 100mW >> Bandwidth: Not specified >> Usage: Not specified >> Ref Standard (either): > > Either, does that mean either FCC, or ETSI or ITU, you take a pick? > That would seem pretty vague for regulatory purposes. > >> EN 300 328-2 : Electromagnetic compatibility and Radio spectrum Matters >> (ERM); Wideband Transmission systems; Data transmission >> equipment operating in the 2,4 GHz ISM band and using >> spread spectrum modulation techniques; Part 2: Harmonized >> EN covering essential requirements under article 3.2 of R&TTE >> Directive > > Did this come from the TH document? Yes. I managed to get translated documents, but for now I didn't get any reply from NTC. > >> FCC Part 15.247 : Code of Federal Regulations (USA); Title 47 >> Telecommunication; Chapter 1 Federal Communications >> Commission; Part 15 Radio Frequency Devices; Subpart C – >> Intentional Radiators; §15.247 Operation within the bands 902– >> 928 MHz, 2400–2483.5 MHz, and 5725–5850 MHz > > This too?? I ask because I see FCC mentioned. > >> 5150-5350 MHz >> Max Power (e.i.r.p): 200mW, Density 10mW/MHz (0.25mW/25KHz) >> Bandwidth: Not specified >> Usage: Indoor applications only, DFS is must > > Thanks, did this came from the TH document? > >> Resolution 229 (WRC-03) >> (Radio Regulations) - Use of the bands 5 150-5 250 MHz, 5 250-5 350 >> MHz and 5 470-5 725 >> MHz by the mobile service for the implementation of wireless access >> systems including >> radio local area networks >> >> Recommendation ITU-R M. 1652 (Annex 1): Dynamic >> frequency selection (DFS) in wireless access systems including radio >> local area networks >> for the purpose of protecting the radiocommunication service in the 5 GHz band >> >> Ref Standard (either): >> >> ETSI EN 301 893 : Broadband Radio Access Networks (BRAN); 5 GHz high >> performance RLAN; Harmonized EN covering essential >> requirements of article 3.2 of the R&TTE Directive >> >> FCC Part 15.407 : Code of Federal Regulations (USA); Title 47 >> Telecommunications; Chapter 1 Federal Communications >> Commission; Part 15 Radio Frequency Devices; Subpart E – >> Unlicensed National Information Infrastructure Devices; >> § 15.407 General technical requirements >> >> >> >> 5450-5725 MHz >> Max Power (e.i.r.p): 1W, Density 50mW/MHz >> Bandwidth: Not specified >> Usage: Not specified, DFS is must >> >> Resolution 229 (WRC-03) >> (Radio Regulations) - Use of the bands 5 150-5 250 MHz, 5 250-5 350 >> MHz and 5 470-5 725 >> MHz by the mobile service for the implementation of wireless access >> systems including >> radio local area networks >> >> Recommendation ITU-R M. 1652 (Annex 1): Dynamic >> frequency selection (DFS) in wireless access systems including radio >> local area networks >> for the purpose of protecting the radiocommunication service in the 5 GHz band >> >> Ref Standard (either): >> >> ETSI EN 301 893 : Broadband Radio Access Networks (BRAN); 5 GHz high >> performance RLAN; Harmonized EN covering essential >> requirements of article 3.2 of the R&TTE Directive >> >> Code of Federal Regulations (USA); Title 47 >> Telecommunications; Chapter 1 Federal Communications >> Commission; Part 15 Radio Frequency Devices; Subpart E – >> Unlicensed National Information Infrastructure Devices; >> § 15.407 General technical requirements >> >> 5725-5850 MHz >> Max Power (e.i.r.p): 1W >> Bandwidth: Not specified >> Usage: Not specified >> Ref Standard (either): >> >> FCC Part 15.247 : Code of Federal Regulations (USA); Title 47 >> Telecommunication; Chapter 1 Federal Communications >> Commission; Part 15 Radio Frequency Devices; Subpart C – >> Intentional Radiators; §15.247 Operation within the bands 902– >> 928 MHz, 2400–2483.5 MHz, and 5725–5850 MHz >> >> Code of Federal Regulations (USA); Title 47 >> Telecommunications; Chapter 1 Federal Communications >> Commission; Part 15 Radio Frequency Devices; Subpart E – >> Unlicensed National Information Infrastructure Devices; >> § 15.407 General technical requirements >> >> Phattanon, >> >> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Luis R. >> Rodriguez<lrodriguez@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Phattanon Duangdara reported the National Telecommunication >>> Commisions of Thailand has announced new regulatory rules >>> about 5GHz for RLAN last year. >>> >>> I have verified this matches our documentation internally >>> at Atheros. >>> >>> Reference in Thai Language: >>> http://www.ratchakitcha.soc.go.th/DATA/PDF/2551/E/042/64.PDF >>> >>> Cc: Michael Green <michael.green@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Cc: David Quan <david.quan@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Reported-by: Phattanon Duangdara <sfalpha@xxxxxxxxx> >>> Signed-off-by: Luis R. Rodriguez <lrodriguez@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> --- >>> db.txt | 6 +++++- >>> 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) >>> >>> diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt >>> index fad098d..01536d6 100644 >>> --- a/db.txt >>> +++ b/db.txt >>> @@ -534,7 +534,11 @@ country TW: >>> (5735 - 5815 @ 40), (3, 30) >>> >>> country TH: >>> - (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (N/A, 20) >>> + (2402 - 2482 @ 20), (N/A, 20) >>> + (5170 - 5250 @ 20), (3, 17) >>> + (5250 - 5330 @ 20), (3, 20), DFS >>> + (5490 - 5710 @ 20), (3, 20), DFS >>> + (5735 - 5835 @ 20), (3, 30) >>> >>> country TT: >>> (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (N/A, 20) >>> -- >>> 1.6.3.3 >>> >>> -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
