(Replied to John's note but forgot to Cc: the list so here is): > FWIW, are you sure? PID was still the default in 2.6.28 IIRC. > The "run to the highest available rate" behavior was typical of PID. I have just gone through all of my preserved 2.6.28 configs (2.6.28 to 2.6.28.7) and in every case: CONFIG_MAC80211_RC_DEFAULT_MINSTREL=y and CONFIG_MAC80211_RC_DEFAULT="minstrel" whilst CONFIG_MAC80211_RC_DEFAULT_PID is not set Same thing for 2.6.29-rc stuff. (All my 2.6.27 configs used PID for rate control, probably that's all there was, can't remember). I'm currently bisecting - at 2.6.29-rc2 at the moment - but with no improvement so far in the Bit Rate reported by iwconfig. In all I'm pretty sure it's not a minstrel v. PID rate control issue so much as something different in the underlying stuff between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29. Adrian _________________________________________________________________ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/-- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html