Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:42 PM, <david@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> - Show quoted text - >> On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: >>> OK small silly example is convincing distributions it may be a good >>> idea to carry linux-next kernel packages as options to users to >>> hopefully down the road reduce the delta between what they carry and >>> what is actually upstream. >> >> linux-next is a testing tree for developers, it changes day to day, doesn't >> contain all relavent changes, and is definantly _not_ something that distros >> should be pushing to users. > > Why not? Just as people may want to get bleeding edge wireless I don't > see why a user may not want to simply get bleeding edge wireless and > bleeding edge audio, and video. They want wireless to work and audio to not break. > The latest RC series helps but lets > face it there are also a lot of good stuff queued for the -next > releases as well. The way I'm seeing this is if a user has no support > for a device on their system it should look something like this: > > Distribution kernel --> > Distribution next stable kernel release (2.6.27 --> 2.6.28) --> > Distribution RC kernel (if one is available) | kernel.org RC kernel --> > Development tree kernel for a specific device --> > Staging > > If the have multiple devices which are not yet supported by the latest > RC kernel but on -next then you have little options but I think a > concrete one should exist and it does. Testers for linux-next are certainly welcome, but these testers need to understand what the actual topic of linux-next is. It is an integration-testing tree (for what is anticipated to be part of Linus' next merge window). Integration testing is for the purpose of detecting + fixing (or avoiding) problems due to interactions between subsystems, or between infrastructure code to peripheral code. Therefore I agree with David that linux-next is somewhat too special for general consumption. Before integration testing, we test subsystem developments in a more targeted fashion in our myriad of subsystem development trees. (These trees host special branches from which linux-next is created almost daily in a more or less automated fashion.) Of course if a distributor wanted to package linux-next, why not. The nature of -next would call for several of such package releases per week though. -- Stefan Richter -=====-==--= --== ---== http://arcgraph.de/sr/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html