On Fri, Jan 3, 2025, at 13:44, Johannes Berg wrote: > On Fri, 2025-01-03 at 07:44 +0100, Philipp Hortmann wrote: >> >> One of my big fears is the hand over to the next generation maintainers >> and developers. The less code and the less exceptions due to old >> interfaces the easier it will be. We loose maintainers and developers >> for many reasons, like: retirement, burnout, embargos or simply because >> they are not paid and need to earn money. After giving some support on >> the staging subsystem I cannot see at all that we can attract so many >> talented people as required for a save future beyond 7 years... > > I wouldn't say that's necessarily a wrong sentiment, but I feel future > maintainers can also make that decision, and if it's "years" in the > future the relevance will only go down anyway. > > We just started putting some pressure into the system for removal of > wext and nl80211 support (with WiFi7 devices no longer supporting wext) > so chances are at least here the situation will change, and anyway wext > stuff will become less relevant, perhaps to the point that other tools > will drop support for it anyway. Not wpa_supplicant though, I suppose :) I would assume that once removing CFG80211_WEXT becomes an option, we can just put the remaining parts of net/wireless/wext-*.c into both ps3_gelic and ipw2x00, duplicating and then simplifying the implementation. As far as I can tell, there is very little that is actually shared between the two anyway. Arnd