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Re: [PATCH] wifi: orphan brcm80211 broadcom drivers

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On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 at 16:27, Kalle Valo <kvalo@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> (sorry for the really late reply, I was on a long vacation)
>
> Arend van Spriel <arend.vanspriel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
> > On 12/20/2023 5:21 PM, Kalle Valo wrote:
> >
> >> I am so sad about this but I fully understand your decision. You have
> >> the best knowledge of Broadcom devices and you were involved with
> >> brcm80211 from the beginning. I can guess how difficult lately it has
> >> been for you to find time for upstream work but even still you
> >> replied to my mails and tried to support the community the best you
> >> can, which I appreciated so much. Everyone else in the corporate
> >> world usually just ignore, you did not do that.
> >
> > Hi Kalle,
> >
> > Maybe I should reconsider, because it feels a bit like high school and
> > the bullies won. I agreed that I can not meet expectations and the
> > main aspect being testing patch series on fair amount of devices.
>
> Yes, please reconsider! I didn't apply your patch because I was hoping I
> could still convince you to continue maintaining it :)
>

+1 on @Arend van Spriel reconsidering.

We need another maintainer also though, for the amount of users of
this code, this is undermaintained.

CC'ing @Izabela Bakollari who has a Raspberry Pi 4 coming in the mail
who offered to help test patches, help with maintenance, etc. She has
been in contact with @Daniel Berlin .

> I fully understand the challenges of maintaining a huge driver like
> brcm80211: no proper documentation available, several companies
> involved, a plethora of firmware branches which might work a bit
> different and so many hardware variants.
>
> > Do you think we can address that with some help? For instance by
> > reaching out to several people in the community that use brcmfmac and
> > ask them if they are willing to regularly test on wireless-testing. My
> > experience with community members is not so great as they tend to
> > loose interest and move on, but it may be worth a try. Let me know
> > what you think.
>
> I definitely think that getting a small community around brcm80211 would
> be beneficial. For example, a good start would be to create a dedicated
> list for brcm80211 where people can discuss about anything from testing
> to developing patches and all between. lists.infradead.org is one good
> place and there's also lists.linux.dev.
>
> Let me know if there's anything I can help with. I have also CCed people
> who expressed interest in helping brcm80211 development before the
> holidays.
>
> --
> https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-wireless/list/
>
> https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/developers/documentation/submittingpatches
>





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