On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Pavel Roskin <proski@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 11:42 -0800, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > >> > I think the biggest impediment to MadWifi development was not >> > bureaucracy. It was the non-free HAL. >> >> Not really, even with an alternative people are still used to coding >> with it and find it easier to commit into an svn repository than >> submit patches upstream. Maybe our process is move involved but there >> its also why Linux code has a certain quality in it. We tend to frown >> upon crap. If MadWifi ever were to touch Linux it would be tainted >> with CRAP. > > OK, HAL was not the only reason. Let's say there is good bureaucracy > and bad bureaucracy. The difference is the former is helpful and the > later is not. The kernel is an excellent example of good bureaucracy > that we should learn from. > > It would be great to have a detailed analysis why MadWifi failed. It didn't fail, it was just not the best approach to support Linux from the start, that's why *today* its just silly to go on with it, specially since the vendor involved is *contributing* and helping to implement support the right way. >> Just my advice: let MadWifi die already, stop wasting your time. > > I understand what you mean, but I have to deal with MadWifi anyway. As > I said before, I'd rather share my fixes that keep them to myself. Understood -- but perhaps you can identify what is lacking that you need to better help push what is required and missing. Luis -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html