On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Tomas Winkler <tomasw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Richard Scherping wrote: >>> >>> Tomas Winkler schrieb: > >> >> Amen. > Stable doesn't mean all components are stable, citation from Linus blog: > "It doesn't have to be perfect (and obviously no release ever is), but > it needs to be in reasonable shape" > > The fact is that some critical patches were rejected as not > regressions in rc cycle and probably need to be pushed to the stable > version now or distribution will merge them. > We gave more priority for testing 32 bit version so it is more stable > then 64 bit which got much less in house testing and we've missed many > issues there. The driver doesn't get full exposure till it's get to > the public in stable version therefore no bugs are opened in the rc > cycle so also are not fixed in the stable version. and unfortunately > there is no much system testing at all for what get's into merging > window. > Second the whole mac80211 stack didn't address fully MQ rewrite so > it's a bit shaky as well and this will be fact also in 2.6.28. OK. > > This driver has been available and more-or-less working for ages. >> What kernel am I supposed to run if I just want a stable system? Haven't >> found one yet, other than distro kernels... >> >> In any case, I've seen these complete system hiccups with iwl4965 and iwlagn >> since at least 2.6.25 and through quite a few wireless-testing versions. I >> bet that this, along with things like it, is the culprit: > > Haven't seen you've filled bug for it. Fair enough. #1790. > > Locking need to be really revised but till now I didn't see show > stoppers issues so it didn't get priority > >> Would I be out of line for wishing the iwlwifi developers > Patches are always welcome I can write a patch to add a mutex and change it to: take mutex grab_nic spinlock but I bet that would break all kinds of things. :) --Andy -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html