Hello Felix, On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 13:47:07 +0100, Felix Fietkau <nbd@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 2021-11-16 22:28, Peter Seiderer wrote: > > Despite the 'RTS thr:off' setting a wireshark trace of IBSS > > traffic with HT40 mode enabled between two ath9k cards revealed > > some RTS/CTS traffic. > > > > Debug and code analysis showed that most places setting > > IEEE80211_TX_RC_USE_RTS_CTS respect the RTS strategy by > > evaluating rts_threshold, e.g. net/mac80211/tx.c: > > > > 698 /* set up RTS protection if desired */ > > 699 if (len > tx->local->hw.wiphy->rts_threshold) { > > 700 txrc.rts = true; > > 701 } > > 702 > > 703 info->control.use_rts = txrc.rts; > > > > or drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/xmit.c > > > > 1238 /* > > 1239 * Handle RTS threshold for unaggregated HT frames. > > 1240 */ > > 1241 if (bf_isampdu(bf) && !bf_isaggr(bf) && > > 1242 (rates[i].flags & IEEE80211_TX_RC_MCS) && > > 1243 unlikely(rts_thresh != (u32) -1)) { > > 1244 if (!rts_thresh || (len > rts_thresh)) > > 1245 rts = true; > > 1246 } > > > > The only place setting IEEE80211_TX_RC_USE_RTS_CTS unconditionally > > was found in net/mac80211/rc80211_minstrel_ht.c. > > > > As the use_rts value is only calculated after hitting the minstrel_ht code > > preferre to not set IEEE80211_TX_RC_USE_RTS_CTS (and overruling the > > RTS threshold setting) for the fallback rates case. > The idea behind the this part of minstrel_ht code is to avoid the > overhead of RTS/CTS for transmissions using the primary rate and to > increase the reliability of retransmissions by adding it for fallback > rates. This is completely unrelated to the RTS threshold. How does it avoid RTS/CTS (if it is set independent by RTS threshold evaluation mac80211 and/or hardware driver)? > > If you don't want this behavior, I'm fine with adding a way to > explicitly disable it. However, I do think leaving it on by default > makes sense. I expected this (as otherwise the flag setting would not be there) ;-) Any hint how to implement an additional RTS/CTS on/off feature despite the RTS threshold one for use explicit by minstrel_ht? Configure option, module option, ...? Regards, Peter > > - Felix