Am Montag, 15. September 2008 schrieb Dan Williams: > On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 16:34 +0200, Helmut Schaa wrote: > > Am Montag, 15. September 2008 16:07:31 schrieb Dan Williams: > > > On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 14:35 +0200, Helmut Schaa wrote: > > > > This patch adds a new wext event that notifies the user space about a low > > > > signal quality. The currently used indicator is as follows: If three > > > > successive beacons are received with a signal quality lower then 40% > > > > user space gets informed. > > > > > > > > Any ideas about which indicators should be used? Comments? > > > > > > So why does this need a new event? Can't wpa_supplicant monitor the > > > signal quality (or level/noise if the driver doesn't provide "quality") > > > and do what it needs to do without any changes to the kernel at all? > > > > I thought about that as well but I'm not sure if the signal quality/strength > > is a well enough indicator. > > Beacon misses should be a factor in quality, just like failed > decryptions or excessive retries. Any of these are indications that the > "link" sucks and you might want to try finding a better AP. Beacon > misses are just one piece of the whole quality thing. Right. > > For example if we want to consider the number of missed beacons the current > > IWEVQUAL event is not enough to expose this information. > > Additionally some devices can report missed beacons. Maybe even the quality > > values reported by the drivers are not comparable at all (although they are > > normalized to be between 0 and 100). Hence my intention was that mac80211 and > > the driver might know better which indicators matter. > > So if the values aren't comparable, we _make_ them comparable. The > drivers can certainly tell mac80211 which things they are capable of > reporting for quality and the stack can figure them in to the final > "quality" measurement. However, I do agree that having separate > indicators for the different factors is a good thing. Thus something > like what Holger suggests would be better from my perspective than an > ethereal concept like a "roaming threshold". Maybe just a poor choice > of terms? Ok, I'll sum that up. Moving the policy into user space is a good thing if the quality values are comparable. Once mac80211 recognices a noticable quality change we could use IWEVQUAL to notify user space about it. Furthermore (if desired) the signal could be extended to not only report a value between 0 and 100 but could also contain flags indicating lost beacons, excessive retries etc. Helmut -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html