On Thu, 2020-07-30 at 14:23 +0000, Shay Bar wrote: > On 30/07/2020 17:00, Johannes Berg wrote: > > External Email > > > > > > On Thu, 2020-06-25 at 13:29 +0300, Shay Bar wrote: > > > On 25/06/2020 12:51, Johannes Berg wrote: > > > > External Email > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2020-06-21 at 10:12 +0000, Shay Bar wrote: > > > > > Hi Johannes and Ben, > > > > > > > > > > To conclude this thread, hostapd doesn’t send any deauth/disassoc > > > > > upon AP stop (when hostapd is killed _or_ when "ifconfig down" the > > > > > AP interface). > > > > Right. I'm sort of suggesting you just shouldn't be doing this, and it > > > > doesn't seem like most people actually do, otherwise we'd have seen this > > > > issue before? > > > > > > > I shouldn't kill hostapd? Isn't this a very basic action? > > > What is the alternative for stopping the AP? > > I guess I would say to use hostapd_cli first to "disable" the > > interfaces? > > Indeed, using hostapd_cli "DISABLE" will call > hostapd_flush_old_stations() that will send broadcast deauth. Ah. > The problem is (mentioned before) that some stations (e.g. Samsung S8) > ignore this broadcast (while it will not ignore unicast > deauth/disassoc). Right, you mentioned that. I guess you could work around by disabling all stations separately, but ... not really a great solution either. Perhaps we should fix that at the hostapd level? Not really sure how much trouble we should go to for bad stations though. I mean, it's not like they should be ignoring that. Maybe they just miss it due to super aggressive powersave, and we should send it a few times? johannes