On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 15:31 +0200, Michael Buesch wrote: > On Thursday 31 July 2008 10:41:05 Johannes Berg wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 15:51 -0400, Pavel Roskin wrote: > > > On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 21:41 +0200, Michael Buesch wrote: > > > > > > > dhclient works fine for me. Although it's true that it sometimes > > > > messes with up/down state. But you _can_ use it, if you take some care. > > > > > > True. But b43 has the lowest dhclient survival rate of all drivers I > > > know. That's an empirical observation, of course. > > > > I think debian patches out the down/up behaviour. We may be seeing that. > > Oh, that might explain why I don't see this behaviour. We all agreed at the OLS Wireless Summit that the up/down behavior of dhclient was just f**king stupid and should be patched out. Upstream doesn't seem to be very responsive. It just kills mac80211-based drivers, and drivers that do firmware upload on dev->open() because all settings get lost and the driver would have to re-load everything, which is ton of code in the driver that shouldn't have to be there. It's bad for Intel WiMAX devices too because they do firmware upload in dev->open(). Dan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html