On Tue, 2019-02-26 at 14:13 +0100, Julius Niedworok wrote: > > Thank you for the explanation - I can adjust the comment, if you like to. > > > So what are you getting back after you enabled IFF_ECHO on your mac80211 device? > > > > Is it just a 'status' about a sent packet, or is it the packet ('full content') itself? > > We are actually getting back the full content of the packet. So it > matches the behaviour of the 'echo' in CAN. I don't think it does, really. In CAN, if I understand correctly, this is used for regular operation interfaces, where you might want to run 'tcpdump', on wifi the equivalent would be 'tcpdump -i wlan0'. This *already* implements full visibility of outgoing and incoming frames. Not sure how CAN even manages *not to*, but I don't really need to care :-) You're proposing to add this to the *monitor* interfaces and you really should have made the flag conditional on that to make that clear. However, even on monitor interfaces, you typically *already* see the frames you transmitted there (as raw frames, which is the only thing you can do). What you're proposing is to use IFF_ECHO to show frames transmitted through *other* interfaces on the monitor interface. I don't think the IFF_ECHO semantics really match this. Additionally, drivers are sort of free to ignore the REQ_TX_STATUS, or we could in the future add ways of using the _noskb to feed back TX status to the state machines where needed, so I'm not really sure I even _want_ this to be set in stone in such an API. Now, I can also see how this can be useful for debugging, but it feels to me like this should be a driver (debug) option? johannes