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Re: [PATCH 0/4] cfg80211/mac80211: Add support for TID specific configuration

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On 11/07/2018 04:55 PM, Igor Mitsyanko wrote:
On 10/22/2018 10:55 AM, Tamizh chelvam wrote:

Add infrastructure for per TID aggregation/retry count configurations
such as retry count and AMPDU aggregation control(disable/enable).
In some scenario reducing the number of retry count for a specific data
traffic can reduce the latency by proceeding with the next packet
instead of retrying the same packet more time. This will be useful
where the next packet can resume the operation without an issue.
Here added NL80211_CMD_SET_TID_CONFIG to support this operation by
accepting retry count and AMPDU aggregation control.
This command can accept STA mac addreess to make the configuration
station specific rather than applying to all the connected stations
to the netdev.


It's not immediately clear how to make use of these settings, here are
several comments:

1. What max retry count limit should actually be applied to? Retries
decisions are in a rate adaptation domain, it should know how many
retries should be done on each rate, single "max retry" value will not
suffice. For example, it can retry twice on MCS9, twice on MCS7, three
times on MCS5 or something like that.

I'm not familiar with what ATH10k is doing, 4th patch defines
ATH10K_MAX_RETRY_COUNT=30, what does it actually mean? It's unlikely "do
30 retries on the same rate". Does retry limit setting interacts with
rate adaptation somehow in ath10k?

Maybe it makes sense to extend max retry value specification to make it
possible to define per-rate? I'm not sure how much flexibility we want
here, something like retry value per MCS:BW:SGI?

For ath10k, my understanding is that each time it (re)sends a packet, it will
query FW rate-ctrl and choose the optimal rate.  It doesn't pay much attention to
whether a specific frame is retried or not, other than to maybe enable RTS/CTS,
but lots of retries will bump the rate-ctrl down to a lower rate.

There are no per-rate retry counter logic, but I think there is per-tid
control, though currently it might not be wired up to the driver.


2. AMPDU/AMSDU - the way it is, it is also relevant to rate in Tx
direction only, correct? We keep advertised capabilities intact and peer
has all rights to send AMPDUs/AMSDUs of whatever size that was advertised.
Additionally, posted patches do not do anything with established
blockack agreement.

3 With above being said, perhaps it would make sense for this new
interface to indicate explicitly that it's related to Tx rate? That can
be controlled per-TID, per-node or globally, depending on device
capabilities.
Some other settings that may be useful are fixed MCS, MCS limit, SGI
on/off, bandwidth, maybe even provide rate retry rules.

I think there should be a way to configure the advertised capabilities, and also a way to
configure the settings actually used for transmit.  This is what we use
for test-related use cases, but maybe there is not a great deal of general
use for this type of thing.  For general use, the 'transmit' settings are probably
more useful.  I do know that several ath10k users are forcing it back to /n
mode which works around some bugs in their mesh setup.

You can already set a fixed transmit rate or set the MCS rates allowed to be used
(my supplicant, ath10k-ct driver/firmware is needed to take full advantage of this
 for ath10k).  In upstream kernels, this will not much affect the advertised capabilities.

I also have patches that allow setting the advertised rates and capabilities, so you can force
a station to advertise only a/n rates even though it and peer have /AC capability.
Those patches are not upstream, though if opinions are changed, I'd be happy
to repost and try to get them upstream.

Thanks,
Ben

I don't see how it can be used in real product, unless there is an
external rate adaptation logic of some kind. But definitely it will be
useful for testing, and can be used for WFA certification.


--
Ben Greear <greearb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Candela Technologies Inc  http://www.candelatech.com



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