On Tue, 2018-05-08 at 17:34 +0000, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > On Thu, May 03, 2018 at 08:24:26PM -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote: > > On Fri, 2018-05-04 at 00:07 +0000, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > > > On Tue, May 01, 2018 at 09:48:20AM -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote: > > > > Allow LSMs and IMA to differentiate between signed regulatory.db and > > > > other firmware. > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Mimi Zohar <zohar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Cc: Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@xxxxxxxx> > > > > Cc: David Howells <dhowells@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Cc: Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes.berg@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > --- > > > > drivers/base/firmware_loader/main.c | 5 +++++ > > > > include/linux/fs.h | 1 + > > > > 2 files changed, 6 insertions(+) > > > > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/base/firmware_loader/main.c b/drivers/base/firmware_loader/main.c > > > > index eb34089e4299..d7cdf04a8681 100644 > > > > --- a/drivers/base/firmware_loader/main.c > > > > +++ b/drivers/base/firmware_loader/main.c > > > > @@ -318,6 +318,11 @@ fw_get_filesystem_firmware(struct device *device, struct fw_priv *fw_priv) > > > > break; > > > > } > > > > > > > > +#ifdef CONFIG_CFG80211_REQUIRE_SIGNED_REGDB > > > > + if ((strcmp(fw_priv->fw_name, "regulatory.db") == 0) || > > > > + (strcmp(fw_priv->fw_name, "regulatory.db.p7s") == 0)) > > > > + id = READING_FIRMWARE_REGULATORY_DB; > > > > +#endif > > > > > > Whoa, no way. > > > > There are two methods for the kernel to verify firmware signatures. > > Yes, but although CONFIG_CFG80211_REQUIRE_SIGNED_REGDB is its own kernel > mechanism to verify firmware it uses the request_firmware*() API for > regulatory.db and regulatory.db.p7s, and IMA already can appraise these two > files since the firmware API is used. IMA-appraisal can verify a signature stored as an xattr, but not a detached signature. That support could be added, but isn't there today. Today, a regulatory.db signature would have to be stored as an xattr. > > As such I see no reason to add a new ID for them at all. > K > Its not providing an *alternative*, its providing an *extra* kernel measure. > If anything CONFIG_CFG80211_REQUIRE_SIGNED_REGDB perhaps should be its own > stacked LSM. I'd be open to see patches which set that out. May be a > cleaner interface. > > > If both are enabled, do we require both signatures or is one enough. > > Good question. Considering it as a stacked LSM (although not implemented > as one), I'd say its up to who enabled the Kconfig entries. If IMA and > CONFIG_CFG80211_REQUIRE_SIGNED_REGDB are enabled then both. If someone enabled > IMA though, then surely I agree that enabling > CONFIG_CFG80211_REQUIRE_SIGNED_REGDB is stupid and redundant, but its up to the > system integrator to decide. Just because IMA-appraisal is enabled in the kernel doesn't mean that firmware signatures will be verified. That is a run time policy decision. > > If we however want to make it clear that such things as > CONFIG_CFG80211_REQUIRE_SIGNED_REGDB are not required when IMA is enabled we > could just make the kconfig depend on !IMA or something? Or perhaps a new > kconfig for IMA which if selected it means that drivers can opt to open code > *further* kernel signature verification, even though IMA already is sufficient. > Perhaps CONFIG_ENABLE_IMA_OVERLAPPING, and the driver depends on it? The existing CONFIG_IMA_APPRAISE is not enough. If there was a build time IMA config that translated into an IMA policy requiring firmware signature verification (eg. CONFIG_IMA_APPRAISE_FIRMWARE), this could be sorted out at build time. > > > Assigning a different id for regdb signed firmware allows LSMs and IMA > > to handle regdb files differently. > > That's not the main concern here, its the precedent we are setting here for > any new kernel interface which open codes firmware signing on its own. What > you are doing means other kernel users who open codes their own firmware > signing may need to add yet-another reading ID. That doesn't either look > well on code, and seems kind of silly from a coding perspective given > the above, in which I clarify IMA still is doing its own appraisal on it. Suppose, 1. Either CONFIG_CFG80211_REQUIRE_SIGNED_REGDB or "CONFIG_IMA_APPRAISE_FIRMWARE" would be configured at build. 2. If CONFIG_CFG80211_REQUIRE_SIGNED_REGDB is configured, not "CONFIG_IMA_APPRAISE_FIRMWARE", a custom IMA-policy rule that appraises the firmware signature could be defined. In this case, both signature verification methods would be enforced. then READING_FIRMWARE_REGULATORY_DB would not be needed. Mimi > > > > > fw_priv->size = 0; > > > > rc = kernel_read_file_from_path(path, &fw_priv->data, &size, > > > > msize, id); > > > > diff --git a/include/linux/fs.h b/include/linux/fs.h > > > > index dc16a73c3d38..d1153c2884b9 100644 > > > > --- a/include/linux/fs.h > > > > +++ b/include/linux/fs.h > > > > @@ -2811,6 +2811,7 @@ extern int do_pipe_flags(int *, int); > > > > id(FIRMWARE, firmware) \ > > > > id(FIRMWARE_PREALLOC_BUFFER, firmware) \ > > > > id(FIRMWARE_FALLBACK, firmware) \ > > > > + id(FIRMWARE_REGULATORY_DB, firmware) \ > > > > > > Why could IMA not appriase these files? They are part of the standard path. > > > > The subsequent patch attempts to verify the IMA-appraisal signature, but on > > failure it falls back to allowing regdb signatures. > > For systems that only want to load firmware based on IMA-appraisal, then > >regdb wouldn't be enabled. > > I think we can codify this a bit better, without a new ID. > > Luis >