On Wed, 2017-10-18 at 12:50 +0300, Kalle Valo wrote: > Luca Coelho <luca@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > On Wed, 2017-10-18 at 07:59 +0300, Kalle Valo wrote: > > > Luca Coelho <luca@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > > > > > On Tue, 2017-10-17 at 14:23 -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > > > > > > > > I don't know how or why, but I seem to: > > > > > saruman:~# grep IWLWIFI /boot/config-4.12.10-amd64-preempt- > > > > > sysrq- > > > > > 20170406 > > > > > CONFIG_IWLWIFI=m > > > > > CONFIG_IWLWIFI_LEDS=y > > > > > CONFIG_IWLWIFI_OPMODE_MODULAR=y > > > > > # CONFIG_IWLWIFI_BCAST_FILTERING is not set > > > > > CONFIG_IWLWIFI_PCIE_RTPM=y > > > > > CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEBUG=y > > > > > CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEVICE_TRACING=y > > > > > > > > > > I'll remove that, thanks. > > > > > > > > Cool, I think that might help. If it doesn't, please report a > > > > bug > > > > in > > > > buzilla. ;) > > > > > > But a Kconfig option should never break functionality, so IMHO > > > this > > > still sounds like a bug in iwlwifi. > > > > The problem is that to get this to work, some changes need to be > > made > > in the platform side. In this case, the rootport is not configured > > properly so it won't work. > > Yeah, but users or distros might accidentally enable this Kconfig > option and break the driver unintentionally. And subtle bugs like > this > are even worse as the user will not realise that it's because of a > new > Kconfig option. > > So I guess you can't automatically detect it the platform supports > RTPM, > right? Maybe there should be a module parameter which has to be set > to > enable this? And at least a big fat warning to the user that RTPM is > enabled, bugs are likely and the user has to know what she's doing. I thought this was what EXPERT was used for: menuconfig EXPERT bool "Configure standard kernel features (expert users)" # Unhide debug options, to make the on-by-default options visible select DEBUG_KERNEL help This option allows certain base kernel options and settings to be disabled or tweaked. This is for specialized environments which can tolerate a "non-standard" kernel. Only use this if you really know what you are doing. But it seems that it's widely used even by people/distros who don't know what they are doing. :( Would it be okay if we just add a printk(KERN_ERR, ...)? > > We discussed this before and that's why this option now depends on > > EXPERT. > > Heh, we did? I have no recollection of whatsoever about that :) I'm not sure you were involved in the discussion, but that discussion was the reason we introduced EXPERT as a dependency. -- Luca.