Ben, all, There are scenarios where setting a rate mask from userspace will result in no usable rates, e.g. when you set a rate mask of 6,9,12 MBps, and the AP reports it only supports 36,48,54 (which some APs do). This results in a WARN_ONCE() hitting since we can't find a usable rate, and then we fall back to 1 or 6 MBps, which is a mandatory rate but the AP didn't report it as supported (is it thus misbehaving? doesn't matter much though) I'd go and reject a setting that results in no usable rates, but because the setting is sticky this is very complicated (it's a good thing I insisted we have very few of these, but some I couldn't get around). Would there be any objection to making this setting non-sticky, i.e. always resetting it for a new association? It's kinda designed to be sticky, with the per-band setting, but clearly this is causing big problems. Alternatively, the really proper behaviour would be for this setting to actually influence whether or not we can connect to the AP, but that will just lead to massive problems because wpa_s will be unaware and will pick APs that we can't support with the setting etc. Therefore I'm not going to do this. I could also reset the setting only when it would result in no usable rates, but that doesn't even give userspace any good way at all to predict it. Is anyone - other than ChromeOS, which sets it just after association - actually using this? johannes