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On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Arend Van Spriel
<arend.vanspriel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 6-10-2016 10:07, Gucea Doru wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Arend Van Spriel
>> <arend.vanspriel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> On 4-10-2016 13:39, Gucea Doru wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Arend van Spriel
>>>>> <arend.vanspriel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 29-09-16 13:32, Gucea Doru wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Gucea Doru <gucea.doru@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>> What is the decision triggering the exit from the PS mode immediately
>>>>>>>> after the ping request? I am asking this because 802.11 PS legacy
>>>>>>>> specifies that the client should wait for a beacon with TIM set in
>>>>>>>> order to wake up: in my case, there is no beacon between the ping
>>>>>>>> request message and the Null frame that announces the exit from the PS
>>>>>>>> mode.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any help would be highly appreciated :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually though I already sent you are reply, but alas here it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bcmdhd is our aosp driver. I am maintaining the upstream brcm80211
>>>>>> drivers. Regardless your question is more for firmware running on the
>>>>>> device. So like the same behavior would be observed when using brcmfmac
>>>>>> with same firmware.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IEEE Std 802.11-2012, section 10.2.1.8 specifies that "when the STA
>>>>>>> detects that the bit corresponding to its AID is 1 i the TIM, the STA
>>>>>>> shall issue a PS Poll". In my capture there are cases when the STA
>>>>>>> exits the PS mode without waiting for a beacon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is a bit tricky, but the standard does not explicitly say the STA
>>>>>> should be in power-save at any other time. So it is difficult to say
>>>>>> what event occurred on the STA side to exit PS mode. Also STA means
>>>>>> P2P-Client as you say. That means that you have multiple interfaces:
>>>>>> regular STA and P2P-Client. So is the STA connected to some other AP or
>>>>>> just not connected. wpa_supplicant will do intermittent scan or initiate
>>>>>> scheduled scan by which firmware will scan at a certain interval. That
>>>>>> is just some things I can come up with and I am sure there are more.
>>>>
>>>> I agree that there may be some events belonging to the regular STA
>>>> interface that could trigger the Null Frame (which includes the exit
>>>> from PS Mode). However, I would expect to see some management frames
>>>> in the air before/after the Null Packet (e.g.: a Probe request in case
>>>> of a scheduled scan). But in my case the trigger for the Null frame
>>>> seems to be the ping request packet, the scenario is the same every
>>>> time: ping request -> Block ACK -> Null Frame (Wireshark trace
>>>> confirms this behavior).
>>>>
>>>> I thought that you had a power save optimization algorithm that keeps
>>>> the card on a few milliseconds just to see if we can have a fast reply
>>>> from the peer. Does this ring a bell? :)
>>>
>>> It does not. That would be implemented in firmware. As said I am working
>>> on brcmfmac/brcmsmac. So bcmdhd and firmware are not my expertise.
>>>
>>
>> Arend, could you please redirect me to a Broadcom firmware maintainer?
>
> Can you please elaborate on your platform, broadcom chipset, and what
> version of bcmdhd you are using.
>

Platform: Nexus 5 running CM13 (Android 6.0.1)
Broadcom chipset: BCM4339 Wi-Fi Chipset
bcmdhd version:Dongle Host Driver, version 1.88.45 (r)

Do you need more information?

Thank you,
Doru



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