On 03-08-16 19:10, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 03:04:39PM +0000, Valo, Kalle wrote: >> "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: >> >>> On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 01:33:31PM +0200, Arend van Spriel wrote: >>>> On 02-08-16 16:16, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 11:10:22AM +0000, Valo, Kalle wrote: >>>>>> "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I was considering this as a future extension to the firmware API >>>>>>> through the new extensible firmware API, the sysdata API. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think Linus mentioned this already, but I want to reiterate anyway. >>>>>> The name "sysdata" is horrible, I didn't have any idea what it means >>>>>> until I read your description. Please continue to use the term >>>>>> "firmware", anyone already know what it means. >>>>> >>>>> We've gone well past using the firmware API for firmware though, if >>>>> we use it for 802.11 to replace CRDA for instance its really odd to >>>>> be calling it firmware. But sure... I will rebrand again to firmware... >>>> >>>> I tend to agree. Although some people even call an OpenWrt image >>>> firmware. Guess it is just in the eye of the beholder. >>> >>> Sure... >>> >>> Come to think of it I'll still go with "sysdata", this is a very minor >>> detail, do let me know if there is anything technical rather than >>> the color of the bikeshed [0] over the patches. >> >> Well, you don't seem to care but I prefer that the terminology is clear >> and I don't want to waste people's time browsing the source to find out >> what something means. > > Its not that I don't care, its this is a super trivial matter, like the > color of a bikeshed, and I'd much prefer to put energy and review on > technical matters. > >> Even "driverdata" would be more descriptive for me >> than "sysdata". >> >> Actually, what does the "sys" refer here, system? And what system is >> that exactly? > > Yes system, so as in system data file. "driver_data" is just as good. > Although who knows, others may want to paint the bikeshed a different > color. > > The core reason why the name change is to make emphasis of the fact that > we've gone way past the point where the APIs are used for non-firmware > and I expect this use will only grow. Here some colors to add to the palet with "color code" in brackets: - device specific data (dsd): although if CRDA stuff is loaded it is no longer tied to a device. - eXtensible firmware API (xfw): the ever popular x factor :-p - binary blob loader (bbl): just popped up in me head. Need more beer to go on. Regards, Arend -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html