On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 03:42:34AM +0200, Johannes Berg wrote: > > I'm still not sure about the dependencies between LL_MAX_HEADER, > dev->hard_header_len and similar. Why, for example, does ipip set it to > LL_MAX_HEADER + sizeof(struct iphdr)? Because it doesn't know better > since the packets it creates could be routed anywhere? The difference between LL_MAX_HEADER and hard_header_len is that the former is a system-wide hint of how big the header can be and the latter is a device-specific value. In other words, we use the former when we don't know where we create a packet since we don't know where it'll end up. As such we allocate a generous amount of header space so that hopefully nobody will have to expand the header later. However, it would be OK for someone to expand it but obviously it this happened for the majority of your traffic then you've done something wrong since expanding it wastes CPU resources by copying the data. The value of hard_header_len on the other hand is used for two purposes at least. First of all it is a hint of how much free header space there should be in a packet before it goes into a device (but don't rely on it). More importantly it's the length of the hardware header in the packet. The definition of the hardware header varies with each type of device. Cheers, -- Visit Openswan at http://www.openswan.org/ Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html