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Re: [PATCH] mac80211: disable u-APSD queues by default

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On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Johannes Berg <johannes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 12:48 +0100, Michal Kazior wrote:
>> Some APs experience problems when working with
>> U-APSD. Decreasing the probability of that
>> happening by using legacy mode for all ACs but VO
>> isn't enough.
>>
>> Cisco 4410N originally forced us to enable VO by
>> default only because it treated non-VO ACs as
>> legacy.
>>
>> However some APs (notably Netgear R7000) silently
>> reclassify packets to different ACs. Since u-APSD
>> ACs require trigger frames for frame retrieval
>> clients would never see some frames (e.g. ARP
>> responses) or would fetch them accidentally after
>> a long time.
>
> This makes me a little sad, but I've applied this and even added a Cc
> stable tag due to the interoperability issues.
>
Mixed mode (uapsd + legacy) is not really the optimal
configuration, where we expect STA to send trigger frames periodically
to retrieve the DL packets (especially very first packet).

But still if we want power save, i suggest going for
All u-apsd (0xF), so that AP will inform us by setting the TIM bit
and we can retrieve the first frame.
(We have this patch internally and it works well).
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