Linus, Jouni, all, Thanks everyone. I've applied this patch to my mac80211 tree - I'll send it out to davem tomorrow I think. Jouni, given that hwsim uses minstrel as well, perhaps we could have a test case in the wpa_supplicant tests in some way that checks this? I'm thinking we could hook into the AP and remove it from the radio group right after sending 3/4, so that 4/4 would get retransmitted? I don't actually know though if hwsim really honours all the rate stuff, something to look into perhaps. > Also "Tested-by:", and I'd suggest marking it for stable too (although > I understand that David generally doesn't use stable tags, and just > sends them separately to the stable tree). Done - and yeah, he does that, but I add stable tags anyway since I don't want to track it down later. So far he hasn't complained :-) > My main laptop is iwlwifi, and the only reason that worked is > apparently that the iwlwifi driver already basically does something > similar on its own. Yes, and it also starts out at a lower rate. > All the other devices I have apparently don't use the 802.11 code even > if they are Linux-based (ie mostly android, and presumably they use > some vendor driver rather than the minstrel rate-handling code). Indeed, very few of them do. The only ones I'm aware of are (fairly old) phones using the TI wifi chip - my Motorola razr i for example actually runs mac80211. However, it also doesn't use minstrel, so I guess you won't find a phone using this :-) johannes -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html