On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 08:43:07AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 08:26:35AM -0700, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 08:08:16AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote: > > > Perhaps it would be easier if I also sent the patch to udev's helper, > > > so you could see how I propose handling the userspace change to using > > > the new interface? > > > > As there is no more "udev firmware helper", I don't know what you would > > be patching here. Firmware should always be loaded by the kernel > > directly, udev isn't involved anyore at all. > > > > confused, > > > > greg k-h > > The kernel _can_ load directly (when the paths are configured correctly), > but I'm not sure why you say udev isn't involved any more. It's been like > this for years, and even the latest systemd shows the udev rule is still in > place: > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/rules/50-firmware.rules > and that the firmware loader is still in the source tree: > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/src/udev/udev-builtin-firmware.c Ah, I thought that I had seen patches to delete this code on the systemd mailing list in the past, I didn't realize they hadn't been accepted yet. But, with my current tree, in linux-next, it's really hard to select the "external firmware loader" on purpose, as we want people to use the in-kernel one if at all possible, and only fall back to the "legacy" udev userspace loader if they are running on old userspace systems. > Here's the patch for the new interface... I'd really not like to add a new interface for this model when we are trying to delete it entirely. Why not just rely on the in-kernel loader instead for this new feature? thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html