James, I think that I have found and fix the cause of the timing miscalculation [1] I have recompiled rtlwifi modules to have access to the debug option which I have set to 4. I have also compiled ALSA modules with the XRUN_DEBUG option that I have activated with echo 1 > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/xrun_debug I have reproduced the problems while collecting dmesg output and using 'watch -n1 cat /proc/interrupts' I have made a couple of observations. 1. there is a small burst of interrupts for rtl8192ce at a regular interval which seems to happen during rtl_op_sw_scan and the underruns appear to coincide with that. 2. I was expecting to see XRUN entries in dmesg but I didn't. The closest that I have is [ 1700.756017] PCM: Lost interrupts? [Q] (stream=0, delta=16108, new_hw_ptr=383756, old_hw_ptr=367648) 3. I didn't realise that the default ALSA device was a plugin using dmix. I have no underruns by using directly the ALSA HW device (hw:0,0) 4. I have seen this in dmesg logs: hda-intel: IRQ timing workaround is activated for card #0. Suggest a bigger bdl_pos_adj. here is the aplay output with the dmesg logs around this time: $ aplay -v ~/Music/sine.wav Playing WAVE '/home/lano1106/Music/sine.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo Plug PCM: Rate conversion PCM (48000, sformat=S32_LE) Converter: linear-interpolation Protocol version: 10002 Its setup is: stream : PLAYBACK access : RW_INTERLEAVED format : S16_LE subformat : STD channels : 2 rate : 44100 exact rate : 44100 (44100/1) msbits : 16 buffer_size : 15052 period_size : 940 period_time : 21333 tstamp_mode : NONE period_step : 1 avail_min : 940 period_event : 0 start_threshold : 15052 stop_threshold : 15052 silence_threshold: 0 silence_size : 0 boundary : 986447872 Slave: Soft volume PCM Control: PCM Playback Volume min_dB: -51 max_dB: 0 resolution: 256 Its setup is: stream : PLAYBACK access : MMAP_INTERLEAVED format : S32_LE subformat : STD channels : 2 rate : 48000 exact rate : 48000 (48000/1) msbits : 32 buffer_size : 16384 period_size : 1024 period_time : 21333 tstamp_mode : NONE period_step : 1 avail_min : 1024 period_event : 0 start_threshold : 16384 stop_threshold : 16384 silence_threshold: 0 silence_size : 0 boundary : 1073741824 Slave: Direct Stream Mixing PCM Its setup is: stream : PLAYBACK access : MMAP_INTERLEAVED format : S32_LE subformat : STD channels : 2 rate : 48000 exact rate : 48000 (48000/1) msbits : 32 buffer_size : 16384 period_size : 1024 period_time : 21333 tstamp_mode : NONE period_step : 1 avail_min : 1024 period_event : 0 start_threshold : 16384 stop_threshold : 16384 silence_threshold: 0 silence_size : 0 boundary : 1073741824 Hardware PCM card 0 'HDA Intel' device 0 subdevice 0 Its setup is: stream : PLAYBACK access : MMAP_INTERLEAVED format : S32_LE subformat : STD channels : 2 rate : 48000 exact rate : 48000 (48000/1) msbits : 32 buffer_size : 16384 period_size : 1024 period_time : 21333 tstamp_mode : ENABLE period_step : 1 avail_min : 1024 period_event : 0 start_threshold : 1 stop_threshold : 1073741824 silence_threshold: 0 silence_size : 1073741824 boundary : 1073741824 appl_ptr : 0 hw_ptr : 0 underrun!!! (at least 7098.589 ms long) Status: state : XRUN trigger_time: 1692.774265154 tstamp : 1700.760145135 delay : -301 avail : 15353 avail_max : 15341 [ 1692.761247] hda-intel 0000:00:1b.0: azx_pcm_prepare: bufsize=0x20000, format=0x31 [ 1692.761268] hda_codec_setup_stream: NID=0x13, stream=0x8, channel=0, format=0x31 [ 1692.761275] hda_codec_setup_stream: NID=0x14, stream=0x8, channel=0, format=0x31 [ 1694.303968] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_phy_set_rf_power_state():<0-1> IPS Set eRf nic enable [ 1694.304021] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1694.304086] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1694.304200] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1694.304314] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1694.304427] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1694.304541] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1694.304655] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1694.304693] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1694.304693] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1694.304693] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1694.304693] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1694.304693] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:98053f15:10 [ 1694.304693] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_sw_led_on():<0-1> LedAddr:4E ledpin=1 [ 1694.304693] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_download_fw():<0-1> Firmware Version(49), Signature(0x88c1),Size(32) [ 1694.318113] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_enable_hw_security_config():<0-1> PairwiseEncAlgorithm = 0 GroupEncAlgorithm = 0 [ 1694.318113] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_enable_hw_security_config():<0-1> The SECR-value cc [ 1694.318113] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_dm_check_txpower_tracking_thermal_meter():<0-1> Schedule TxPowerTracking direct call!! [ 1694.318113] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_dm_txpower_tracking_callback_thermalmeter():<0-1> rtl92c_dm_txpower_tracking_callback_thermalmeter [ 1694.318113] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_dm_txpower_tracking_callback_thermalmeter():<0-1> Readback Thermal Meter = 0xd pre thermal meter 0xf eeprom_thermalmeter 0xf [ 1694.318113] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_dm_txpower_tracking_callback_thermalmeter():<0-1> Initial pathA ele_d reg0xc80 = 0x40000000, ofdm_index=0xc [ 1694.318113] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_dm_txpower_tracking_callback_thermalmeter():<0-1> Initial reg0xa24 = 0x90e1317, cck_index=0xc, ch14 0 [ 1694.318113] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_dm_txpower_tracking_callback_thermalmeter():<0-1> Readback Thermal Meter = 0xd pre thermal meter 0xf eeprom_thermalmeter 0xf delta 0x2 delta_lck 0x1 delta_iqk 0x1 [ 1694.318113] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_dm_txpower_tracking_callback_thermalmeter():<0-1> <=== [ 1694.318113] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_dm_initialize_txpower_tracking_thermalmeter():<0-1> pMgntInfo->txpower_tracking = 1 [ 1694.318113] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_led_control():<0-1> ledaction 3 [ 1694.318113] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_sw_led_on():<0-1> LedAddr:4E ledpin=1 [ 1694.640920] PCM: Lost interrupts? [Q] (stream=0, delta=14444, new_hw_ptr=90248, old_hw_ptr=75804) [ 1694.641440] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_dm_dynamic_bb_powersaving():<0-0> Not connected to any [ 1694.641454] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_dm_dynamic_bb_powersaving():<0-0> AP Ext Port PWDB = 0x0 [ 1694.641472] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_dm_check_txpower_tracking_thermal_meter():<0-0> Trigger 92S Thermal Meter!! [ 1694.641517] rtlwifi:rtl_op_sw_scan_start():<0-0> [ 1694.641530] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_led_control():<0-0> ledaction 6 [ 1694.641545] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_dm_write_dig():<0-0> cur_igvalue = 0x20, pre_igvalue = 0x0, back_val = 10 [ 1694.654779] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_phy_sw_chnl():<0-0> sw_chnl_inprogress false schedule workitem [ 1694.654786] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_set_hw_reg():<0-0> HW_VAR_SLOT_TIME 14 [ 1694.724173] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_phy_sw_chnl():<0-0> sw_chnl_inprogress false schedule workitem [ 1694.724179] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_set_hw_reg():<0-0> HW_VAR_SLOT_TIME 14 [ 1694.794176] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_phy_sw_chnl():<0-0> sw_chnl_inprogress false schedule workitem [ 1694.794181] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_set_hw_reg():<0-0> HW_VAR_SLOT_TIME 14 [ 1694.864217] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_phy_sw_chnl():<0-0> sw_chnl_inprogress false schedule workitem [ 1694.864226] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_set_hw_reg():<0-0> HW_VAR_SLOT_TIME 14 [ 1694.934184] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_phy_sw_chnl():<0-0> sw_chnl_inprogress false schedule workitem [ 1694.934193] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_set_hw_reg():<0-0> HW_VAR_SLOT_TIME 14 [ 1695.004187] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_phy_sw_chnl():<0-0> sw_chnl_inprogress false schedule workitem [ 1695.004196] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_set_hw_reg():<0-0> HW_VAR_SLOT_TIME 14 [ 1695.074187] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_phy_sw_chnl():<0-0> sw_chnl_inprogress false schedule workitem [ 1695.074196] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_set_hw_reg():<0-0> HW_VAR_SLOT_TIME 14 [ 1695.144185] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_phy_sw_chnl():<0-0> sw_chnl_inprogress false schedule workitem [ 1695.144194] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_set_hw_reg():<0-0> HW_VAR_SLOT_TIME 14 [ 1695.214184] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_phy_sw_chnl():<0-0> sw_chnl_inprogress false schedule workitem [ 1695.214196] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_set_hw_reg():<0-0> HW_VAR_SLOT_TIME 14 [ 1695.284182] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_phy_sw_chnl():<0-0> sw_chnl_inprogress false schedule workitem [ 1695.284192] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_set_hw_reg():<0-0> HW_VAR_SLOT_TIME 14 [ 1695.354186] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_phy_sw_chnl():<0-0> sw_chnl_inprogress false schedule workitem [ 1695.354195] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_set_hw_reg():<0-0> HW_VAR_SLOT_TIME 14 [ 1695.424207] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_phy_sw_chnl():<0-0> sw_chnl_inprogress false schedule workitem [ 1695.424217] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_set_hw_reg():<0-0> HW_VAR_SLOT_TIME 14 [ 1695.424275] rtlwifi:rtl_op_sw_scan_complete():<0-0> [ 1695.424282] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_dm_write_dig():<0-0> cur_igvalue = 0x22, pre_igvalue = 0x22, back_val = 10 [ 1695.524091] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_phy_set_rf_power_state():<0-0> IPS Set eRf nic disable [ 1695.524141] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_led_control():<0-0> ledaction 2 [ 1695.524147] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_sw_led_on():<0-0> LedAddr:4E ledpin=1 [ 1700.419054] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_phy_set_rf_power_state():<0-1> IPS Set eRf nic enable [ 1700.419106] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1700.419172] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1700.419286] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1700.419399] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1700.419513] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1700.419627] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1700.419745] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1700.419866] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1700.419984] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1700.420015] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1700.420015] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:18051d59:11 [ 1700.420015] rtl8192ce:_rtl92ce_init_mac():<0-1> reg0xec:98053f15:10 [ 1700.420015] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_sw_led_on():<0-1> LedAddr:4E ledpin=1 [ 1700.420015] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_download_fw():<0-1> Firmware Version(49), Signature(0x88c1),Size(32) [ 1700.420015] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_enable_hw_security_config():<0-1> PairwiseEncAlgorithm = 0 GroupEncAlgorithm = 0 [ 1700.420015] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_enable_hw_security_config():<0-1> The SECR-value cc [ 1700.420015] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_dm_check_txpower_tracking_thermal_meter():<0-1> Schedule TxPowerTracking direct call!! [ 1700.420015] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_dm_txpower_tracking_callback_thermalmeter():<0-1> rtl92c_dm_txpower_tracking_callback_thermalmeter [ 1700.420015] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_dm_txpower_tracking_callback_thermalmeter():<0-1> Readback Thermal Meter = 0xd pre thermal meter 0xf eeprom_thermalmeter 0xf [ 1700.420015] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_dm_txpower_tracking_callback_thermalmeter():<0-1> Initial pathA ele_d reg0xc80 = 0x40000000, ofdm_index=0xc [ 1700.420015] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_dm_txpower_tracking_callback_thermalmeter():<0-1> Initial reg0xa24 = 0x90e1317, cck_index=0xc, ch14 0 [ 1700.420015] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_dm_txpower_tracking_callback_thermalmeter():<0-1> Readback Thermal Meter = 0xd pre thermal meter 0xf eeprom_thermalmeter 0xf delta 0x2 delta_lck 0x1 delta_iqk 0x1 [ 1700.420015] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_dm_txpower_tracking_callback_thermalmeter():<0-1> <=== [ 1700.420015] rtl8192c_common:rtl92c_dm_initialize_txpower_tracking_thermalmeter():<0-1> pMgntInfo->txpower_tracking = 1 [ 1700.420015] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_led_control():<0-1> ledaction 3 [ 1700.420015] rtl8192ce:rtl92ce_sw_led_on():<0-1> LedAddr:4E ledpin=1 [ 1700.756017] PCM: Lost interrupts? [Q] (stream=0, delta=16108, new_hw_ptr=383756, old_hw_ptr=367648) [ 1700.756513] rtlwifi:rtl_op_sw_scan_start():<0-0> [1] http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2014-January/071521.html On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 16:55 +1100, James Cameron wrote: > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:25:42AM -0500, Olivier Langlois wrote: > > On 01/15/2014 12:01 PM, Larry Finger wrote: > > >On 01/15/2014 12:37 AM, Olivier Langlois wrote: > > >>How to reproduce: > > >> > > >>1. Enable Wifi while not connecting to any AP. > > >>2. lano1106@hpmini ~/Music $ aplay -c1 sine.wav > > >>underrun!!! (at least 1856093977.967 ms long) > > Indeed, that timing is fishy. > > I've looked at the alsa-devel thread [1] and your problem description > there. > > At OLPC during development we found similar symptoms showing up in > ALSA playback that were contributed to other drivers, but the > underlying causes were in the ALSA driver for our codec chip, and the > other drivers were changing the appearance of the fault only because > of timing changes. > > But there's no need to conclude that interrupts were disabled or > delayed. There can be many other causes. > > The timing miscalculation by ALSA might be important. I can't figure > out how a wireless driver can easily cause that. > > 1. > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2014-January/071142.html > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html