Hi, I have been trying to debug massive packet loss that our product experiences with recent Aruba access points. The basic symptoms are that within a few seconds after you start sending significant data, you start getting 100% RX loss. A few seconds later, RX recovers for a few seconds before the cycle repeats. The higher the packet send rate, the faster this cycle repeats. I have been tracing the packets through the code, and it appears that the loss happens in ieee80211_sta_manage_reorder_buf. It appears that when there are broadcast QoS Data packets, their sequence numbers get mixed with non-broadcast QoS Data sequence numbers causing out-of-date sequence number conditions to get triggered spuriously. As far as I can tell broadcast QoS Data packets coming from the AP are pretty rare (the other networks I have access seem to use Data packets for broadcast traffic from the AP), but are legal. So I'm suspecting that the AP is behaving correctly, but is triggering a so-far rare bug in mac80211. But this problem is likely to become much more widespread if Aruba's 802.11ac firmware triggers it. I'm not a deep 802.11 expert or a mac80211 so I could certainly use some help here. I am putting the details I have gathered below, and would love any suggestions/advice. Currently, my impression is that we might need a special tid_rx for broadcast packets similar to the special handling of broadcast packets in ieee80211_parse_qos. Best regards, Blaise The condition that causes the loss is: /* frame with out of date sequence number */ if (ieee80211_sn_less(mpdu_seq_num, head_seq_num)) { dev_kfree_skb(skb); goto out; } Adding the following printk statements near the top printk("wlan: ieee80211_sta_manage_reorder_buf %u %u %u\n", skb->len, mpdu_seq_num, head_seq_num); and bottom out: printk("wlan: ieee80211_sta_manage_reorder_buf end %u\n", tid_agg_rx->head_seq_num); of ieee80211_sta_manage_reorder_buf, I get the following output at the time when loss starts (the comments were added manually): Nov 19 21:55:29 localhost kernel: wlan: ieee80211_sta_manage_reorder_buf 206 552 552 Nov 19 21:55:29 localhost kernel: wlan: ieee80211_sta_manage_reorder_buf end 553 Nov 19 21:55:29 localhost kernel: wlan: ieee80211_sta_manage_reorder_buf 206 553 553 Nov 19 21:55:29 localhost kernel: wlan: ieee80211_sta_manage_reorder_buf end 554 # The two packets above got through fine. Nov 19 21:55:29 localhost kernel: wlan: ieee80211_sta_manage_reorder_buf 96 2551 554 Nov 19 21:55:29 localhost kernel: wlan: ieee80211_sta_manage_reorder_buf end 2488 # The broadcast packet above causes the head_seq_num to jump to whatever # the current broadcast sequence number is. Nov 19 21:55:29 localhost kernel: wlan: ieee80211_sta_manage_reorder_buf 206 554 2488 Nov 19 21:55:29 localhost kernel: wlan: ieee80211_sta_manage_reorder_buf end 2488 Nov 19 21:55:29 localhost kernel: wlan: ieee80211_sta_manage_reorder_buf 206 555 2488 Nov 19 21:55:29 localhost kernel: wlan: ieee80211_sta_manage_reorder_buf end 2488 Nov 19 21:55:29 localhost kernel: wlan: ieee80211_sta_manage_reorder_buf 206 556 2488 Nov 19 21:55:29 localhost kernel: wlan: ieee80211_sta_manage_reorder_buf end 2488 # The three packets above are dropped. And there are plenty more drops until sequence numbers wrap around. The corresponding tshark output (I'd be happy to provide a pcap file on demand, but I'm not sure what linux-wireless will accept) shows the frames that were traced above, and a few others that aren't related to my adapter. 17309 5.577576 JuniperN_99:37:0e -> Sparklan_47:57:16 802.11 250 QoS Data, SN=552, FN=0, Flags=.p....F.C 17310 5.577651 ArubaNet_f0:b7:56 (TA) -> Apple_31:89:b6 (RA) 802.11 46 Request-to-send, Flags=........C 17311 5.579743 ArubaNet_ae:65:78 -> Broadcast 802.11 215 Beacon frame, SN=1757, FN=0, Flags=........C, BI=100, SSID=workday-corp 17312 5.579790 ArubaNet_ae:65:79 -> Broadcast 802.11 209 Beacon frame, SN=1757, FN=0, Flags=........C, BI=100, SSID=workday-guest 17313 5.579831 ArubaNet_ec:0d:f0 -> Broadcast 802.11 262 Beacon frame, SN=397, FN=0, Flags=........C, BI=100, SSID=ethersphere-wpa2 17314 5.579885 ArubaNet_ec:0d:f1 -> Broadcast 802.11 237 Beacon frame, SN=398, FN=0, Flags=........C, BI=100, SSID=ARUBA-VISITOR 17315 5.579934 IntelCor_bf:5f:f8 -> Broadcast 802.11 576 Data, SN=399, FN=0, Flags=.p....F.C 17316 5.579952 ArubaNet_f0:b7:55 (TA) -> Sparklan_47:57:12 (RA) 802.11 46 Request-to-send, Flags=........C 17317 5.579968 -> ArubaNet_f0:b7:55 (RA) 802.11 40 Clear-to-send, Flags=........C 17318 5.579975 -> Sparklan_47:57:16 (RA) 802.11 40 Acknowledgement, Flags=........C 17319 5.579989 ArubaNet_f0:b7:55 (TA) -> Sparklan_47:57:12 (RA) 802.11 46 Request-to-send, Flags=........C 17320 5.579997 -> ArubaNet_f0:b7:55 (RA) 802.11 40 Clear-to-send, Flags=........C 17321 5.580016 Sparklan_47:57:16 -> JuniperN_99:37:0e 802.11 212 QoS Data, SN=909, FN=0, Flags=.p.....T 17322 5.581854 ArubaNet_f0:b7:55 (TA) -> Sparklan_47:57:12 (RA) 802.11 46 Request-to-send, Flags=........C 17323 5.581872 -> ArubaNet_f0:b7:55 (RA) 802.11 40 Clear-to-send, Flags=........C 17324 5.581881 JuniperN_99:37:0e -> Sparklan_47:57:12 802.11 140 QoS Data, SN=470, FN=0, Flags=.p..R.F.C 17325 5.581888 Sparklan_47:57:12 (TA) -> ArubaNet_f0:b7:55 (RA) 802.11 58 802.11 Block Ack, Flags=........C 17326 5.581893 ArubaNet_ae:61:28 -> Broadcast 802.11 314 Beacon frame, SN=429, FN=0, Flags=........C, BI=100 17327 5.581935 ArubaNet_ae:61:2a -> Broadcast 802.11 269 Beacon frame, SN=421, FN=0, Flags=........C, BI=100, SSID=employee200-8 17328 5.581967 ArubaNet_f0:b7:55 (TA) -> Sparklan_47:57:16 (RA) 802.11 46 Request-to-send, Flags=........C 17329 5.581974 JuniperN_99:37:0e -> Sparklan_47:57:16 802.11 250 QoS Data, SN=553, FN=0, Flags=.p....F.C 17330 5.582038 Sparklan_47:57:12 -> Broadcast 802.11 126 QoS Data, SN=2551, FN=0, Flags=.p....F.C 17331 5.583623 ArubaNet_f0:b7:56 (TA) -> 84:38:35:5d:f2:aa (RA) 802.11 46 Request-to-send, Flags=........C 17332 5.583635 ArubaNet_f0:b7:56 (TA) -> Apple_31:74:f0 (RA) 802.11 46 Request-to-send, Flags=........C 17333 5.584426 -> Sparklan_47:57:16 (RA) 802.11 40 Acknowledgement, Flags=........C 17334 5.584465 Sparklan_47:57:16 -> JuniperN_99:37:0e 802.11 212 QoS Data, SN=910, FN=0, Flags=.p.....T 17335 5.585022 ArubaNet_f0:b7:56 (TA) -> b8:e8:56:0a:4a:de (RA) 802.11 46 Request-to-send, Flags=........C 17336 5.587968 -> Apple_31:89:b6 (RA) 802.11 40 Clear-to-send, Flags=........C 17337 5.587984 ArubaNet_f0:b7:56 (TA) -> Apple_31:89:b6 (RA) 802.11 58 802.11 Block Ack, Flags=........C 17338 5.587990 -> 84:38:35:5d:f2:aa (RA) 802.11 40 Clear-to-send, Flags=........C 17339 5.587993 ArubaNet_f0:b7:56 (TA) -> 84:38:35:5d:f2:aa (RA) 802.11 58 802.11 Block Ack, Flags=........C 17340 5.587997 ArubaNet_f0:b7:56 (TA) -> Apple_31:89:b6 (RA) 802.11 46 Request-to-send, Flags=........C 17341 5.588001 ArubaNet_f0:b7:56 (TA) -> Apple_31:89:b6 (RA) 802.11 46 Request-to-send, Flags=........C 17342 5.588004 -> ArubaNet_f0:b7:56 (RA) 802.11 40 Clear-to-send, Flags=........C 17343 5.589312 ArubaNet_f0:b7:55 (TA) -> Sparklan_47:57:16 (RA) 802.11 46 Request-to-send, Flags=........C 17344 5.589331 -> Sparklan_47:57:16 (RA) 802.11 40 Acknowledgement, Flags=........C 17345 5.589348 Sparklan_47:57:16 -> JuniperN_99:37:0e 802.11 212 QoS Data, SN=911, FN=0, Flags=.p.....T 17346 5.590768 -> Apple_31:89:b6 (RA) 802.11 40 Clear-to-send, Flags=........C 17347 5.590787 ArubaNet_f0:b7:56 (TA) -> Apple_31:89:b6 (RA) 802.11 58 802.11 Block Ack, Flags=........C 17348 5.590794 ArubaNet_f0:b7:55 (TA) -> Sparklan_47:57:16 (RA) 802.11 46 Request-to-send, Flags=........C 17349 5.590805 JuniperN_99:37:0e -> Sparklan_47:57:16 802.11 250 QoS Data, SN=554, FN=0, Flags=.p..R.F.C 17350 5.590837 JuniperN_99:37:0e -> Sparklan_47:57:16 802.11 250 QoS Data, SN=555, FN=0, Flags=.p..R.F.C Regards, Blaise Gassend -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html