Hi, Firstly, my apologies as I have already posted this on the kernel list by mistake. I have both a Raspberry Pi (BCM2835 SoC) and a Beagleboard-xm (OMAP3525/30 SoC), set up as access points (rt3072 wifi dongle), which are for the most very responsive. However, periodically the AP becomes unresponsive for up to 20 seconds- on both platforms. Most of my testing has been done on the Raspberry Pi, but because that has some issues with its usb-otg system, I obtained the Beagleboard for comparison tests. The configuration I use for testing is: The AP connected to one client (windows XP Laptop), running an ssh session on the AP. Top is running in the ssh session to generate some traffic and processor load. Concurrently, the laptop is pinging the AP to test delays in response. In general, with low traffic volume (top -d 2), ping responses are 2-3ms on either host. After 5-20 minutes, data over the link will freeze and pings will simultaneously timeout. The duration of the freeze depends on whether the AP is in n or g mode. In g mode the freeze is about 4 secs; in n, it is about 12-20 secs. The probability of a freeze occurring increases with traffic over the link. At 20kB/s, the interval between freezes is around 15 mins; whereas at 60-70kB/s the freezes occur every 5-60 secs. It is particularly bad with HT/WMM enabled. If a concurrent top session is run via the Ethernet port, there are no freezes in _that_ link, and changes to its top period have no affect on the freezes occurring on the AP link. This appears to rule out the processor loading effect of top. I have tried the same dongle on the Rasp Pi configured as a normal wifi client, and if power saving is switched off, it performs very well. If power saving is left on, I also experience very occasional 4 second freezes and very erratic ping times. I have also tried the same AP setup on an x86_64 host. This performed much better with WMM enabled, but I still got three 4 second timeouts in a couple of hours and several high ping durations between 900-1093ms which I wouldn't have expected from a very lightly loaded system. Other Raspberry Pi users report their APs working well with other dongle chips - in particular the rt5370 which is using the same rt2800usb driver, but I cannot say how methodical they have been with their testing. I have a preference for a high power AP using the rt3072 and I would really like to see a solution. During the freezes, there were no posts to syslog or dmesg The physical dongle: Digitech computer, High-Power, wireless-N, USB adapter. uname -a raspberry pi: Linux raspberrypi 3.6.11+ #389 PREEMPT Wed Mar 6 12:43:30 GMT 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux and many previous releases. Beagleboard: Linux ivobeagle 3.2.0-38-omap #61-Ubuntu Tue Feb 19 12:23:10 UTC 2013 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux X86 host: Linux ubuntu 3.5.0-25-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 25 18:26:58 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux All three AP hosts used the same /etc/default/hostapd, /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf, /etc/dnsmasq.conf, /etc/network/interfaces. ******************************** hostapd.conf: interface=wlan0 driver=nl80211 ctrl_interface_group=0 ssid=******* hw_mode=g ieee80211n=1 wmm_enabled=1 channel=5 auth_algs=3 wpa=3 wpa_passphrase=******* wpa_key_mgmt=WPA-PSK wpa_pairwise=TKIP rsn_pairwise=CCMP ht_capab=[HT20][SHORT-GI-20] #[RX-STBC1] #eapol_key_index_workaround=0 ********************************** Raspberry pi lsmod: Module Size Used by aes_generic 31536 1 8021q 17966 0 garp 6295 1 8021q stp 1969 1 garp llc 5440 2 stp,garp snd_bcm2835 15846 0 snd_pcm 77560 1 snd_bcm2835 snd_page_alloc 5145 1 snd_pcm snd_seq 53329 0 snd_seq_device 6438 1 snd_seq snd_timer 19998 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd 58447 5 snd_bcm2835,snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_seq_device arc4 1676 2 rt2800usb 14940 0 rt2800lib 55351 1 rt2800usb rt2x00usb 11215 1 rt2800usb rt2x00lib 42334 3 rt2x00usb,rt2800lib,rt2800usb mac80211 273413 3 rt2x00lib,rt2x00usb,rt2800lib cfg80211 184163 2 mac80211,rt2x00lib rfkill 18202 2 cfg80211 crc_ccitt 1522 1 rt2800lib evdev 9426 2 joydev 9316 0 leds_gpio 2235 0 led_class 3562 2 leds_gpio,rt2x00lib ************************************************* Beagleboard lsmod: Module Size Used by dm_crypt 15586 0 arc4 1239 2 rt2800usb 11277 0 rt2800lib 48198 1 rt2800usb crc_ccitt 1509 1 rt2800lib rt2x00usb 11523 1 rt2800usb rt2x00lib 52423 3 rt2800usb,rt2800lib,rt2x00usb mac80211 435767 3 rt2800lib,rt2x00usb,rt2x00lib cfg80211 180757 2 rt2x00lib,mac80211 smsc95xx 12427 0 usbnet 17830 1 smsc95xx dm_multipath 16249 0 twl4030_madc_hwmon 2593 0 snd_soc_twl4030 37838 0 snd_soc_core 111406 1 snd_soc_twl4030 omap_wdt 4191 0 snd_pcm 73736 2 snd_soc_twl4030,snd_soc_core snd_timer 20110 1 snd_pcm snd 60342 3 snd_soc_core,snd_pcm,snd_timer twl4030_madc 6968 1 twl4030_madc_hwmon soundcore 7337 1 snd twl4030_pwrbutton 1245 0 snd_page_alloc 4999 1 snd_pcm spi_omap2_mcspi 8232 0 gpio_keys 7445 0 leds_gpio 3441 0 dm_mirror 13449 0 dm_region_hash 10178 1 dm_mirror dm_log 9519 2 dm_mirror,dm_region_hash btrfs 672215 0 zlib_deflate 21728 1 btrfs libcrc32c 1233 1 btrfs *************************************** ivo@ivobeagle:~$ iw wlan0 station dump Station 00:21:6a:26:42:7e (on wlan0) inactive time: 609 ms rx bytes: 30624 rx packets: 455 tx bytes: 13879 tx packets: 135 tx retries: 1 tx failed: 0 signal: -29 dBm signal avg: -31 dBm tx bitrate: 65.0 MBit/s MCS 7 authorized: yes authenticated: yes preamble: long WMM/WME: yes MFP: no ***************************************** Example from either rasp pi or beagleboard showing consistency of ping interspersed with random freezes: ping interval ~ 1sec/timeout~4 sec Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Request timed out Request timed out Request timed out Request timed out Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 I am a new Linux user, but am keen to learn and do my part to uncover the problem. I will need some pointing in the right direction though. I would also like to ask why ping times on both platforms are Typically 2-3ms with virtually no traffic on the single ssh session, but they improve to around 1ms when there is a reasonable volume of traffic 50+ kB/s? It seems counter-intuitive. Does something in the driver adapt to the increased traffic? Thanks all for your fantastic work. regards Ivo ivo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html