> > Yes, with a HZ/4 rate. > > I don't care how _fast_ it tries to reassociate. I care that > it doesn't give up after some amount of time. And I don't want that the driver get's stuck after some arbitrary time. *NO OTHER DRIVER* that I know of get's stuck. The current libertas code has actually a built-in denial of service attack. Libertas isn't just used in the OLPC, where can make sure some userspace tools does the job. I'll using libertas in PDA like devices, which used to have some HERMES I or HERMES II chips and have to switch to some other CF card because you can't buy CF cards with those chips any more. And on those device you can't just arbitrarily change the rest of the firmware. So, at least in the no encryption & WEP obfuscation mode a WLAN driver should work without special user space software, because that's how real-life dictates the operation. And, as said, otherwise you have a denial of service scenario. > That's fine. The drivers should _not_ be trying to handle all > roaming cornercases themselves. Either the driver or the firmware should handle all corner cases. With a HERMES II chip and a wlags49_h2_cs.ko driver, I can nicely roam with WPA+wpa_supplicant, and also with plain WEP (and no wpa_supplicant). I see no technical reason why libertas shouldn't be able to do the same and behave like all other FULLMAC drivers. > Userspace must come into the equation at some point, especially > with WPA!! I don't see that userspace *MUST* come into the equation at some point. If it *WISHES* to come into the equation: nothing hinders it. Running "iwevent" while killing the station at the AP yields these events: 10:38:43.139777 eth1 New Access Point/Cell address:Not-Associated 10:38:43.389217 eth1 Scan request completed 10:38:45.161671 eth1 New Access Point/Cell address:00:1B:53:11:E2:B0 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html