On Friday 20 July 2007 18:58:24 Larry Finger wrote: > Andy Green wrote: > > > > Understood, that is why I consider it a bad thing that functionality > > that can be done in the mac80211 driver is pushed into the binary-only > > firmware when there is a choice (otherwise known as "paranoia", apparently). > > Unfortunately, that is a necessary result of this type of reverse-engineering. If Broadcom put some > function in the firmware, we have to leave it there as we have no idea what would break. > > > However you stripped some quoting from Michael: > > > > ''But it is actually no problem in reality, as the use-it-or-die > > firmware doesn't have this problem. So if someone uses another > > firmware than the one we suggest, he will probably run into more > > problems, as well. > > The fix is called: Use the correct firmware. > > For now, at least.'' > > > > I would summarize this that Michael is telling me one pariticular > > version of firmware - "use it or die firmware" - is especially > > blessed/correct. It might be an idea to let people know they have > > strayed from the dependency of the required firmware version in dmesg if > > indeed there is an effective dependency of the driver on it. > > It isn't that it is blessed or correct, but that it has been tested. Your version has not. Who knows > what else might have changed? Once we know the version with the different behavior, a warning > message can be prepared. I don't think anyone knew about this problem until you submitted your patch. People don't read dmesg. Adding a "This firmware is unsupported" would have no effect. I experience same thing for the "bcm43xx-does-not-support-v3-issue". There is a clear error message saying what to do exactly. And _still_ people mail me asking what this message means. The use-or-die firmware is here: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/bcm43xx > > Can I still get the firmware version from fwcutter if I don't have the > > original Windows binary the firmware came from? > > AFAIK, fwcutter can only get the version from the foreign driver. It can be gotten from the dmesg > output of your inlaws computer, or if you have the extracted firmware files here, you can bundle > them up and email them to me privately. People don't read dmesg. q.e.d. ;) -- Greetings Michael. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
