Re: [RFC PATCH 0/1] Suspending i.MX watchdog in WAIT mode

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On 22. 09. 22 16:56, Guenter Roeck wrote:
On 9/22/22 00:17, Andrej Picej wrote:
Hi Guenter,

On 21. 09. 22 16:18, Guenter Roeck wrote:
On 9/21/22 05:46, Andrej Picej wrote:
Hi all,

we are using i.MX6UL with its watchdog WDOG1 and kernel 5.15.62. It was
discovered that the watchdog triggers reset when the device is put into
'Suspend-To-Idle' (WAIT) state.


Is that equivalent to "suspend" from Linux perspective, or some other
mode ? How does the device get into this state ?

I think WAIT mode maps to System idle mode in linux [1].


Sorry, I am not going to read that entire manual.


Perfectly understandable, you are busy guys, basically in chapter 21.1.1 it is written:
"System idle maps to WAIT mode."

Sorry don't quite understand your second question.
Do you mean how we trigger this state?
We trigger this state with:
 >     imx6ul-dev:~# echo freeze > /sys/power/state


So it is not "suspend" ? I am not sure if it is appropriate to stop
the watchdog timer in this situation. Normally it is only stopped
in suspend mode.


Well suspend/resume functions are still called when entering this "freeze" mode, but watchdog can not be disabled by software or pinged in this mode, that's why our idea is to set this bit.

Basically, that was my main question. Is it appropriate to stop watchdog in this situation? I guess not. Probably it is not meant to enter this mode for longer period of time.

Also, how does this interact or interfere with the suspend/resume code
in the driver, and does it behave the same for all chips supported by
the driver ? For example, in the current code, i.MX7D is handled
differently. What compatible entry are you using anyway ? There is none
for i.MX6UL. Did you make sure that the same bit doesn't mean something
else for other chips ?


I don't think it interact/interferes with suspend/resume code in any way since mx2+ watchdog is not stoppable during runtime. Not sure if watchdogs on other devices behave the same, sorry.

i.MX6UL devices use "fsl,imx6ul-wdt", "fsl,imx21-wdt" for compatible entry. I checked control registers with other supported devices by this driver:

- fsl,imx25-wdt (same behaviour -> WDW)
- fsl,imx27-wdt (bit is reserved)
- fsl,imx31-wdt (bit is reserved)
- fsl,imx35-wdt (same behaviour -> WDW)
- fsl,imx50-wdt (same behaviour -> WDW)
- fsl,imx51-wdt (same behaviour -> WDW)
- fsl,imx53-wdt (same behaviour -> WDW)
- fsl,imx6q-wdt (same behaviour -> WDW)
- fsl,imx6sl-wdt (same behaviour -> WDW)
- fsl,imx6sll-wdt (same behaviour -> WDW)
- fsl,imx6sx-wdt (same behaviour -> WDW)
- fsl,imx6ul-wdt (same behaviour -> WDW)
- fsl,imx7d-wdt (same behaviour -> WDW)
- fsl,imx8mm-wdt (same behaviour -> WDW)
- fsl,imx8mn-wdt (same behaviour -> WDW)
- fsl,imx8mp-wdt (same behaviour -> WDW)
- fsl,imx8mq-wdt (same behaviour -> WDW)
- fsl,ls1012a-wdt (bit is reserved)
- fsl,ls1043a-wdt (bit is reserved)
- fsl,vf610-wdt (same behaviour -> WDW)
- fsl,imx21-wdt (reserved)

Looking at this table WDW is not really i.MX6UL specific. It is strange that more people don't experience this problem. I guess using "freeze" mode is not very common, which is understandable, since other low power modes are more energy efficient.

Anyway, if some people are using this "feature" of watchdog for WAIT mode supervision, setting this bit would break their use. I just wanted to get your opinion on this, which I got.

Andrej

Thanks,
Guenter

If you mean what is done prior to entering this state?
The device enters WAIT mode when CLPCR bit is set to WAIT. The device
enters WAIT mode by gating the CPU clock, all other clocks can be gated
by programming CGR bits in WAIT mode.

[1] i.MX Linux Reference Manual, Rev. 0, 07/2016

Andrej


Guenter

i.MX6UL watchdog has a WDW (Watchdog Disable for Wait) bit in WCR
(Watchdog Control Register) which can put the watchdog in suspend when
the device is put to WAIT mode. Similarly, WDZST bit is already set in
imx2_wdt driver by default, which suspends the watchdog in STOP and DOZE
modes.

This RFC patch suspends watchdog when the device is in WAIT mode, which
fixes our problem. During development, we noticed some reports where
setting WDW bit caused inconsistent timeout events or inability of
watchdog to reset the board. We didn't have these problems but I am
curious if there is a case where device is put into WAIT mode and
watchdog should be enabled?

Maybe for cases where watchdog is used for WAIT mode supervision? So
basically to reset the system if device doesn't exit WAIT mode on its
own?

The problem can be recreated with:

    imx6ul-dev:~# echo freeze > /sys/power/state
    [  101.093336] PM: suspend entry (s2idle)
    [  101.097785] Filesystems sync: 0.000 seconds
    [  101.122295] Freezing user space processes ... (elapsed 0.001 seconds) done.
    [  101.130637] OOM killer disabled.
    [  101.133998] Freezing remaining freezable tasks ... (elapsed 0.001 seconds) done.     [  101.142941] printk: Suspending console(s) (use no_console_suspend to debug)
    ...
Device resets after watchdog timeout expires! ~105s

Thank you for your feedback.

Best regards,
Andrej

Andrej Picej (1):
   watchdog: imx2_wdg: suspend watchdog in WAIT mode

  drivers/watchdog/imx2_wdt.c | 3 +++
  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)








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