On 13 December 2021 09:11, Christoph Niedermaier wrote: > Resend with [Klartext] to turn off TLS encryption. > > From: Adam Thomson > Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 5:38 PM > >> Thanks anyway, so now I know it must be > >> problem with my DA9061 chip. > >> > >> @Adam > >> Where can it come from? > >> Can you give we a hint what to check? > > > > I've spoken internally and have been informed that this is down to the fact that > > DA9061 runs only from an internal oscillator which may be slower. The > indication > > is that the values for TWDSCALE describe the window where if a kick/ping > occurs > > within that period then the watchdog is guaranteed *not* to timeout. The > actual > > timeout would be at some point after the selected timeout period, assuming > no > > ping/kick occurred. > > > > Table 8 in the datasheet specifies a minimum watchdog timeout of 2.5s > (tWDMAX) > > under specific operating conditions, so if the minimum 2s window was chosen > > (TWDSCALE = 1) then earliest the watchdog would actually timeout, following a > > ping, is 2.5s, assuming the conditions matched those described. > > > > If you have further questions it probably makes sense to contact > Dialog/Renesas > > support as they will be able to provide more detailed info on this. > > So a DA9061 runs only from an internal oscillator, whereas a DA9062 > can run on either an internal or an external oscillator. So this > means that the DA9061 timeout values are differ from the DA9062 > with an external oscillator not only on my device but on all DA9061 > devices. > > This are the values (in seconds) in comparison: > DA9062 (from driver): 0 2 4 8 16 32 65 131 > DA9061 (measured): 0 3 6 12 25 51 102 204 > ================================================= > Difference: 0 +1 +2 +4 +9 +19 +37 +73 > > In my opinion, the differences in the higher values are very huge. > If I expect that the watchdog triggers and I have to wait more than > a minute for that to happen I ask myself is there something wrong. > > @Andrej > I guess, you are using an external oscillator, aren't you? > > @Adam > Is there a way to check in the driver which oscillator is in use? A quick scan of the DA9062 datasheet shows that reg/field EN_32K/CRYSTAL will indicate the presence of a 32KHz crystal oscillator. Obviously on DA9061 that option isn't available. I think the problem seems to lie around determining the internal oscillator's frequency. Datasheet references 25Mhz in Table 9 (Watchdog Electrical Characteristics), but that doesn't seem to tally with your timings and I don't see an obvious way in the regmap to calculate this at run time. *If* the oscillator frequency varies from part to part, or under different environmental conditions, then it's going to be tough to tie this down, and you wouldn't want to state a timeout value that's longer than reality.