Hi Elena, You raised concerns about using packed virtqueues with untrusted devices at Linux Plumbers Conference. I reviewed the specification and did not find fundamental issues that would preclude the use of packed virtqueues in untrusted devices. Do you have more information about issues with packed virtqueues? I also reviewed Linux's virtio_ring.c to look for implementation issues. One thing I noticed was that detach_buf_packed -> vring_unmap_desc_packed trusts the fields of indirect descriptors that have been mapped to the device: flags = le16_to_cpu(desc->flags); dma_unmap_page(vring_dma_dev(vq), le64_to_cpu(desc->addr), le32_to_cpu(desc->len), (flags & VRING_DESC_F_WRITE) ? DMA_FROM_DEVICE : DMA_TO_DEVICE); This could be problematic if the device is able to modify indirect descriptors. However, the indirect descriptor table is mapped with DMA_TO_DEVICE: addr = vring_map_single(vq, desc, total_sg * sizeof(struct vring_packed_desc), DMA_TO_DEVICE); There is no problem when there is an enforcing IOMMU that maps the page with read-only permissions but that's not always the case. Software devices (QEMU, vhost kernel, or vhost-user) usually have full access to guest RAM. They can cause dma_unmap_page() to be invoked with arguments of their choice (except for the first argument) by modifying indirect descriptors. I am not sure if this poses a danger since software devices already have access to guest RAM, but I think this code is risky. It would be safer for the driver to stash away the arguments needed for dma_unmap_page() in memory that is not mapped to the device. Other than that, I didn't find any issues with the packed virtqueue implementation. Stefan
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