On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 6:58 AM Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On 10/17/2022 12:08 AM, Jason Wang wrote: > > Adding Sean and Daniel for more thoughts. > > > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 9:33 AM Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Live migration of vdpa would typically require re-instate vdpa > >> device with an idential set of configs on the destination node, > >> same way as how source node created the device in the first place. > >> > >> In order to allow live migration orchestration software to export the > >> initial set of vdpa attributes with which the device was created, it > >> will be useful if the vdpa tool can report the config on demand with > >> simple query. > > For live migration, I think the management layer should have this > > knowledge and they can communicate directly without bothering the vdpa > > tool on the source. If I was not wrong this is the way libvirt is > > doing now. > I think this series doesn't conflict with what libvirt is doing now. For > example it can still remember the supported features for the parent > mgmtdev, and mtu and mac properties for vdpa creation, and use them to > replicate vdpa device on destination node. The extra benefit is - the > management software (for live migration) doesn't need to care those > mgmtdev specifics - such as what features the parent mgmtdev supports, > whether some features are mandatory, and what are the default values for > those, whether there's enough system or hardware resource available to > create vdpa with requested features et al. This kind of process can be > simplified by just getting a vdpa created with the exact same features > and configus exposed via the 'vdpa dev show' command. Essentially this > export facility just provides the layer of abstraction needed for virtio > related device configuration and for the very core need of vdpa live > migration. For e.g. what're exported can even be useful to facilitate > live migration from vdpa to software virtio. Basically, it doesn't > prevent libvirt from implementing another layer on top to manage vdpa > between mgmtdev devices and vdpa creation, and on the other hand, would > benefit light-weighted mgmt software implementation with device > management and live migration orchestration decoupled in the upper level. Ok, I think this is fine. > > >> This will ease the orchestration software implementation > >> so that it doesn't have to keep track of vdpa config change, or have > >> to persist vdpa attributes across failure and recovery, in fear of > >> being killed due to accidental software error. > >> > >> In this series, the initial device config for vdpa creation will be > >> exported via the "vdpa dev show" command. > >> This is unlike the "vdpa > >> dev config show" command that usually goes with the live value in > >> the device config space, which is not reliable subject to the dynamics > >> of feature negotiation and possible change in device config space. > >> > >> Examples: > >> > >> 1) Create vDPA by default without any config attribute > >> > >> $ vdpa dev add mgmtdev pci/0000:41:04.2 name vdpa0 > >> $ vdpa dev show vdpa0 > >> vdpa0: type network mgmtdev pci/0000:41:04.2 vendor_id 5555 max_vqs 9 max_vq_size 256 > >> $ vdpa dev -jp show vdpa0 > >> { > >> "dev": { > >> "vdpa0": { > >> "type": "network", > >> "mgmtdev": "pci/0000:41:04.2", > >> "vendor_id": 5555, > >> "max_vqs": 9, > >> "max_vq_size": 256, > >> } > >> } > >> } > >> > >> 2) Create vDPA with config attribute(s) specified > >> > >> $ vdpa dev add mgmtdev pci/0000:41:04.2 name vdpa0 \ > >> mac e4:11:c6:d3:45:f0 max_vq_pairs 4 > >> $ vdpa dev show > >> vdpa0: type network mgmtdev pci/0000:41:04.2 vendor_id 5555 max_vqs 9 max_vq_size 256 > >> mac e4:11:c6:d3:45:f0 max_vq_pairs 4 > >> $ vdpa dev -jp show > >> { > >> "dev": { > >> "vdpa0": { > >> "type": "network", > >> "mgmtdev": "pci/0000:41:04.2", > > So "mgmtdev" looks not necessary for live migration. > Right, so once the resulting device_features is exposed to the 'vdpa dev > show' output, the mgmt software could infer the set of config options to > recreate vdpa with, and filter out those unwanted attributes (or pick > what it really wants). Ok, so I wonder if it is this better to have a new command instead of mixing it with "dev show"? Or at least have separated key for virtio like "vdpa0": { "mgmtdev": "vdpasim_net", "virtio config: { .... } } Thanks > > -Siwei > > > > > Thanks > > > >> "vendor_id": 5555, > >> "max_vqs": 9, > >> "max_vq_size": 256, > >> "mac": "e4:11:c6:d3:45:f0", > >> "max_vq_pairs": 4 > >> } > >> } > >> } > >> > >> --- > >> > >> Si-Wei Liu (4): > >> vdpa: save vdpa_dev_set_config in struct vdpa_device > >> vdpa: pass initial config to _vdpa_register_device() > >> vdpa: show dev config as-is in "vdpa dev show" output > >> vdpa: fix improper error message when adding vdpa dev > >> > >> drivers/vdpa/ifcvf/ifcvf_main.c | 2 +- > >> drivers/vdpa/mlx5/net/mlx5_vnet.c | 2 +- > >> drivers/vdpa/vdpa.c | 63 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--- > >> drivers/vdpa/vdpa_sim/vdpa_sim_blk.c | 2 +- > >> drivers/vdpa/vdpa_sim/vdpa_sim_net.c | 2 +- > >> drivers/vdpa/vdpa_user/vduse_dev.c | 2 +- > >> drivers/vdpa/virtio_pci/vp_vdpa.c | 3 +- > >> include/linux/vdpa.h | 26 ++++++++------- > >> 8 files changed, 80 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-) > >> > >> -- > >> 1.8.3.1 > >> > _______________________________________________ Virtualization mailing list Virtualization@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/virtualization