Hi Linus,
On Fri, Aug 05, 2022 at 03:57:08PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 11:11 AM Will Deacon <will@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
[tl;dr a change from ~18 months ago breaks Android userspace and I don't
know what to do about it]
Augh.
I had hoped that android being "closer" to upstream would have meant
that somebody actually tests android with upstream kernels. People
occasionally talk about it, but apparently it's not actually done.
Or maybe it's done onl;y with a very limited android user space.
The whole "we notice that something that happened 18 months ago broke
our environment" is kind of broken.
After some digging, we narrowed this change in behaviour down to
e13a6915a03f ("vhost/vsock: add IOTLB API support") and further digging
reveals that the infamous VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM feature flag is to
blame. Indeed, our tests once again pass if we revert that patch (there's
a trivial conflict with the later addition of VIRTIO_VSOCK_F_SEQPACKET
but otherwise it reverts cleanly).
I have to say, this smells for *so* many reasons.
Why is "IOMMU support" called "VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM"?
That seems insane, but seems fundamental in that commit e13a6915a03f
("vhost/vsock: add IOTLB API support")
This code
if ((features & (1ULL << VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM))) {
if (vhost_init_device_iotlb(&vsock->dev, true))
goto err;
}
just makes me go "What?" It makes no sense. Why isn't that feature
called something-something-IOTLB?
I honestly don't know the reason for the name but
VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM comes from the virtio specification:
https://docs.oasis-open.org/virtio/virtio/v1.2/cs01/virtio-v1.2-cs01.html#x1-6600006
VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM(33)
This feature indicates that the device can be used on a platform
where device access to data in memory is limited and/or translated.
E.g. this is the case if the device can be located behind an IOMMU
that translates bus addresses from the device into physical
addresses in memory, if the device can be limited to only access
certain memory addresses or if special commands such as a cache
flush can be needed to synchronise data in memory with the device.
Whether accesses are actually limited or translated is described by
platform-specific means. If this feature bit is set to 0, then the
device has same access to memory addresses supplied to it as the
driver has. In particular, the device will always use physical
addresses matching addresses used by the driver (typically meaning
physical addresses used by the CPU) and not translated further, and
can access any address supplied to it by the driver. When clear,
this overrides any platform-specific description of whether device
access is limited or translated in any way, e.g. whether an IOMMU
may be present.
Can we please just split that flag into two, and have that odd
"platform access" be one bit, and the "enable iommu" be an entirely
different bit?
IIUC the problem here is that the VMM does the translation and then for
the device there is actually no need to translate, so this feature
should not be negotiated by crosvm and vhost-vsock, but just between
guest's driver and crosvm.
Perhaps the confusion is that we use VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM both
between guest and VMM and between VMM and vhost device.
In fact, prior to commit e13a6915a03f ("vhost/vsock: add IOTLB API
support"), vhost-vsock did not work when a VMM (e.g., QEMU) tried to
negotiate translation with the device:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1894101
The simplest solution is that crosvm doesn't negotiate
VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM with the vhost-vsock device if it doesn't want
to use translation and send messages to set it.
In fact before commit e13a6915a03f ("vhost/vsock: add IOTLB API
support") this feature was not exposed by the vhost-vsock device, so it
was never negotiated. Now crosvm is enabling a new feature (not masking
guest-negotiated features) so I don't think it's a break in user space,
if the user space enable it.
I tried to explain what I understood when I made the change, Michael and
Jason surely can add more information.
Thanks,
Stefano
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