> From: Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 4:51 AM
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 8:25 PM Parav Pandit <parav@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Gautam,
> >
> > Please fix your email client to have right response format.
> > Otherwise, it will be confusing for the rest and us to follow the
> conversation.
> >
> > More below.
> >
> > > From: Gautam Dawar <gdawar@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 1:48 PM
> >
> > > > Our proposal diverge in step 7: Instead of enabling *all* the
> > > > virtqueues, only enable the CVQ.
> > > Just to double check, VQ 0 and 1 of the net are also not enabled, correct?
> > > [GD>>] Yes, that's my understanding as well.
> > >
>
> That's correct. We can say that for a queue to be enabled three things must
> happen:
> * DRIVER_OK (Still not send)
> * VHOST_VDPA_SET_VRING_ENABLE sent for that queue (Only sent for
> CVQ)
> * If queue is not in first data queue pair and not cvq: send
> VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_MQ_VQ_PAIRS_SET with a queue pair that include it.
>
These if conditions, specially the last one is not good as it requires device type knowledge, which in most cases not needed.
Specially for the new code.
> > > > After that, send the DRIVER_OK and queue all the control commands
> > > > to restore the device status (MQ, RSS, ...). Once all of them have
> > > > been acknowledged ("device", or emulated cvq in host vdpa backend
> > > > driver, has used all cvq buffers, enable (SET_VRING_ENABLE,
> > > > set_vq_ready) all other queues.
> > > >
> > > What is special about doing DRIVER_OK and enqueuing the control
> > > commands?
> > > Why other configuration cannot be applied before DRIVER_OK?
>
> There is nothing special beyond "they have a method to be set that way, so
> reusing it avoids having to maintain many ways to set the same things,
> simplifying implementations".
>
> I'm not saying "it has been like that forever so we cannot change it":
> I'm very open to the change but priority-wise we should first achieve a
> working LM with packed, in_order, or even indirect.
>
> > > [GD>>] For the device to be live (and any queue to be able to pass
> > > traffic), DRIVER_OK is a must.
> > This applies only to the vdpa device implemented over virtio device.
> > For such use case/implementation anyway a proper virtio spec extension is
> needed for it be efficient.
> > And what that happens this scheme will still work.
> >
>
> Although it's a longer route, I'd very much prefer an in-band virtio way to
> perform it rather than a linux/vdpa specific. It's one of the reasons I prefer
> the CVQ behavior over a vdpa specific ioctl.
>
What is the in-band method to set last_avail_idx?
In-band virtio method doesn't exist.
> > Other vdpa devices doesn’t have to live with this limitation at this moment.
> >
> > > So, any configuration can be passed over the CVQ only after it is
> > > started (vring configuration + DRIVER_OK). For an emulated queue, if
> > > the order is reversed, I think the enqueued commands will remain
> > > buffered and device should be able to service them when it goes live.
> > I likely didn’t understand what you describe above.
> >
> > Vq avail index etc is programmed before doing DRIVER_OK anyway.
> >
> > Sequence is very straight forward at destination from user to kernel.
> > 1. Set config space fields (such as virtio_net_config/virtio_blk_config).
> > 2. Set other device attributes (max vqs, current num vqs) 3. Set net
> > specific config (RSS, vlan, mac and more filters) 4. Set VQ fields
> > (enable, msix, addr, avail indx) 5. Set DRIVER_OK, device resumes from
> > where it left off
> >
> > Steps #1 to #4 can be done multiple times in pre-warm device up case in
> future.
>
> That requires creating a way to set all the parameters enumerated there to
> vdpa devices. Each time a new feature is added to virtio-net that modifies
> the guest-visible fronted device we would need to update it.
Any guest visible feature exposed by the vdpa device on the source side, a migration agent needs to verify/and make destination device capable to support it anyway. Without it a device may be migrated, but it won't perform at same level as source.
> And all the
> layers of the stack need to maintain more state.
Mostly not. A complete virtio device state arrived from source vdpa device can be given to destination vdpa device without anyone else looking in the middle. If this format is known/well defined.
>
> From the guest point of view, to enable all the queues with
> VHOST_VDPA_SET_VRING_ENABLE and don't send DRIVER_OK is the same
> as send DRIVER_OK and not to enable any data queue with
> VHOST_VDPA_SET_VRING_ENABLE.
Enabling SET_VRING_ENABLE after DRIVER_OK has two basic things broken.
1. supplied RSS config and VQ config is not honored for several tens of hundreds of milliseconds
It will be purely dependent on how/when this ioctl are made.
Due to this behavior packet supposed to arrive in X VQ, arrives in Y VQ.
2. Each VQ enablement one at a time, requires constant steering update for the VQ
While this information is something already known. Trying to reuse brings a callback result in this in-efficiency.
So better to start with more reusable APIs that fits the LM flow.
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