Re: [PATCH v1 0/6] virtio: support advance DMA

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On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 14:37:49 +0800, Jason Wang <jasowang@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 2:20 PM Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 13:59:06 +0800, Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:53:33 +0800, Jason Wang <jasowang@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:46 AM Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:32:52 +0800, Jason Wang <jasowang@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 5:00 PM Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 15:19:44 +0800, Jason Wang <jasowang@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 4:51 PM Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > virtqueue_add() only supports virtual addresses, dma is completed in
> > > > > > > > > virtqueue_add().
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In some scenarios (such as the AF_XDP scenario), DMA is completed in advance, so
> > > > > > > > > it is necessary for us to support passing the DMA address to virtqueue_add().
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'd suggest rename this feature as "unmanaged DMA".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OK
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Record this predma information in extra->flags, which can be skipped when
> > > > > > > > > executing dma unmap.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Question still, can we use per-virtqueue flag instead of per
> > > > > > > > descriptor flag? If my memory is correct, the answer is yes in the
> > > > > > > > discussion for the previous version.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > per-virtqueue? I guess it should be per-submit.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This patch set only adds a flag to desc_extra[head].flags, so that we can know
> > > > > > > if we need to unmap dma when we detach.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I meant if we can manage to make it per virtqueue, there's no need to
> > > > > > maintain per buffer flag.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So we know something that needs to be mapped by virtio core itself,
> > > > > > e.g the indirect page. Other than this, all the rest could be
> > > > > > pre-mapped.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For vnet header, it could be mapped by virtio-net which could be still
> > > > > > treated as pre mapped DMA since it's not the virtio ring code.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anything I miss here?
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess, your understanding is that after the queue is reset, the queue is used
> > > > > by xsk(AF_XDP), then all commits to this vq are premapped amd address.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is ok for rx.
> > > > >
> > > > > But for tx, just like XDP TX, although vq is used by xsk, the kernel also passes
> > > > > skb to it at the same time. It is shared.
> > > >
> > > > Right.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > We can guarantee that the sg of the sgs submitted at one time uses the premapped
> > > > > dma address or virtual address uniformly. It is not guaranteed that all the sgs
> > > > > to the vq are uniform
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, I don't understand here. We can let virtio-net do the mapping
> > > > even for TX, then from the virtio_ring point of view, it's still
> > > > pre-mapped?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yes, we can do this. My previous thought was to keep the skb path unchanged.
>
> We can listen from Michael and others but I think it would be simpler.
>
> And we can even make the pre-mapped per driver. E.g for virtio-net we
> just let the virtio-net driver do the DMA mapping. This allows us to
> do a lot of optimizations (e.g page flip) as what other networking
> drivers did.
>
> > >
> > > Then we can make it clear that in the case of xsk, after completing the queue
> > > reset, all the addresses submitted to virtio are the addresses of the completed
> > > dma, including the skb case, the dma map operation must be completed first.
> > >
> > > In this case, I feel like we can do without this patch set.
> >
> > I originally thought that use_dma_api could be reused, but I found that this is
> > not the case. The logic of sg_phys() does not meet our ideas. We still have a
> > separate flag.
>
> Just to make sure I understand here, for this flag you mean
>
> 1) per buffer
> 2) per virtqueue
> or
> 3) per device?


As far as this question is concerned, I personally prefer per virtqueue. Because
this will be more flexible. It is also very simple to implement per device based
on this, as long as each vq is set to premapped mode.

Thanks.

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> > > > > > > Thanks.
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> > > > > > > > Thanks
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> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > v1:
> > > > > > > > >    1. All sgs requested at one time are required to be unified PREDMA, and several
> > > > > > > > >       of them are not supported to be PREDMA
> > > > > > > > >    2. virtio_dma_map() is removed from this patch set and will be submitted
> > > > > > > > >       together with the next time AF_XDP supports virtio dma
> > > > > > > > >    3. Added patch #2 #3 to remove the check for flags when performing unmap
> > > > > > > > >       indirect desc
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Xuan Zhuo (6):
> > > > > > > > >   virtio: rename vring_unmap_state_packed() to
> > > > > > > > >     vring_unmap_extra_packed()
> > > > > > > > >   virtio: remove flags check for unmap split indirect desc
> > > > > > > > >   virtio: remove flags check for unmap packed indirect desc
> > > > > > > > >   virtio: virtqueue_add() support predma
> > > > > > > > >   virtio: split: virtqueue_add_split() support dma address
> > > > > > > > >   virtio: packed: virtqueue_add_packed() support dma address
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >  drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c | 199 ++++++++++++++++++++++-------------
> > > > > > > > >  1 file changed, 126 insertions(+), 73 deletions(-)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > 2.31.0
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