On Tue, Sep 21 2021, Halil Pasic <pasic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 12:07:23 +0200 > Cornelia Huck <cohuck@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 20 2021, Vineeth Vijayan <vneethv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> > On Mon, 2021-09-20 at 00:39 +0200, Halil Pasic wrote: >> >> On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 10:40:20 +0200 >> >> Cornelia Huck <cohuck@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> > ...snip... >> >> > > >> >> > > Thanks, if I find time for it, I will try to understand this >> >> > > better and >> >> > > come back with my findings. >> >> > > >> >> > > > > * Can virtio_ccw_remove() get called while !cdev->online and >> >> > > > > virtio_ccw_online() is running on a different cpu? If yes, >> >> > > > > what would >> >> > > > > happen then? >> >> > > > >> >> > > > All of the remove/online/... etc. callbacks are invoked via the >> >> > > > ccw bus >> >> > > > code. We have to trust that it gets it correct :) (Or have the >> >> > > > common >> >> > > > I/O layer maintainers double-check it.) >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > Vineeth, what is your take on this? Are the struct ccw_driver >> >> > > virtio_ccw_remove and the virtio_ccw_online callbacks mutually >> >> > > exclusive. Please notice that we may initiate the onlining by >> >> > > calling ccw_device_set_online() from a workqueue. >> >> > > >> >> > > @Conny: I'm not sure what is your definition of 'it gets it >> >> > > correct'... >> >> > > I doubt CIO can make things 100% foolproof in this area. >> >> > >> >> > Not 100% foolproof, but "don't online a device that is in the >> >> > progress >> >> > of going away" seems pretty basic to me. >> >> > >> >> >> >> I hope Vineeth will chime in on this. >> > Considering the online/offline processing, >> > The ccw_device_set_offline function or the online/offline is handled >> > inside device_lock. Also, the online_store function takes care of >> > avoiding multiple online/offline processing. >> > >> > Now, when we consider the unconditional remove of the device, >> > I am not familiar with the virtio_ccw driver. My assumptions are based >> > on how CIO/dasd drivers works. If i understand correctly, the dasd >> > driver sets different flags to make sure that a device_open is getting >> > prevented while the the device is in progress of offline-ing. >> >> Hm, if we are invoking the online/offline callbacks under the device >> lock already, > > I believe we have a misunderstanding here. I believe that Vineeth is > trying to tell us, that online_store_handle_offline() and > online_store_handle_offline() are called under the a device lock of > the ccw device. Right, Vineeth? > > Conny, I believe, by online/offline callbacks, you mean > virtio_ccw_online() and virtio_ccw_offline(), right? Whatever the common I/O layer invokes. > > But the thing is that virtio_ccw_online() may get called (and is > typically called, AFAICT) with no locks held via: > virtio_ccw_probe() --> async_schedule(virtio_ccw_auto_online, cdev) > -*-> virtio_ccw_auto_online(cdev) --> ccw_device_set_online(cdev) --> > virtio_ccw_online() That's the common I/O layer in there again? > > Furthermore after a closer look, I believe because we don't take > a reference to the cdev in probe, we may get virtio_ccw_auto_online() > called with an invalid pointer (the pointer is guaranteed to be valid > in probe, but because of async we have no guarantee that it will be > called in the context of probe). > > Shouldn't we take a reference to the cdev in probe? BTW what is the > reason for the async? I don't know. > > >> how would that affect the remove callback? > > I believe dev->bus->remove(dev) is called by > bus_remove_device() with the device lock held. I.e. I believe that means > that virtio_ccw_remove() is called with the ccw devices device lock > held. Vineeth can you confirm that? > > > The thing is, both virtio_ccw_remove() and virtio_ccw_offline() are > very similar, with the notable exception that offline assumes we are > online() at the moment, while remove() does the same only if it > decides based on vcdev && cdev->online that we are online. > > >> Shouldn't they >> be serialized under the device lock already? I think we are fine. > > AFAICT virtio_ccw_remove() and virtio_ccw_offline() are serialized > against each other under the device lock. And also against > virtio_ccw_online() iff it was initiated via the sysfs, and not via > the auto-online mechanism. > > Thus I don't think we are fine at the moment. I don't understand this, sorry. > >> >> For dasd, I think they also need to deal with the block device >> lifetimes. For virtio-ccw, we are basically a transport that does not >> know about devices further down the chain (that are associated with the >> virtio device, whose lifetime is tied to online/offline processing.) I'd >> presume that the serialization above would be enough. >> > > I don't know about dasd that much. For the reasons stated above, I don't > think the serialization we have right now is entirely sufficient. I'm not sure it makes sense to discuss this further right now, I feel I currently can't really provide any meaningful contribution. _______________________________________________ Virtualization mailing list Virtualization@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/virtualization
