Re: [PATCH] vhost: introduce vDPA based backend

[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

 




On 2020/2/5 下午3:16, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 02:49:31PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
On 2020/2/5 下午2:30, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 01:50:28PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
On 2020/2/5 下午1:31, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 11:12:21AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
On 2020/2/5 上午10:05, Tiwei Bie wrote:
On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 02:46:16PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
On 2020/2/4 下午2:01, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 11:30:11AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
5) generate diffs of memory table and using IOMMU API to setup the dma
mapping in this method
Frankly I think that's a bunch of work. Why not a MAP/UNMAP interface?

Sure, so that basically VHOST_IOTLB_UPDATE/INVALIDATE I think?
Do you mean we let userspace to only use VHOST_IOTLB_UPDATE/INVALIDATE
to do the DMA mapping in vhost-vdpa case? When vIOMMU isn't available,
userspace will set msg->iova to GPA, otherwise userspace will set
msg->iova to GIOVA, and vhost-vdpa module will get HPA from msg->uaddr?

Thanks,
Tiwei
I think so. Michael, do you think this makes sense?

Thanks
to make sure, could you post the suggested argument format for
these ioctls?

It's the existed uapi:

/* no alignment requirement */
struct vhost_iotlb_msg {
      __u64 iova;
      __u64 size;
      __u64 uaddr;
#define VHOST_ACCESS_RO      0x1
#define VHOST_ACCESS_WO      0x2
#define VHOST_ACCESS_RW      0x3
      __u8 perm;
#define VHOST_IOTLB_MISS           1
#define VHOST_IOTLB_UPDATE         2
#define VHOST_IOTLB_INVALIDATE     3
#define VHOST_IOTLB_ACCESS_FAIL    4
      __u8 type;
};

#define VHOST_IOTLB_MSG 0x1
#define VHOST_IOTLB_MSG_V2 0x2

struct vhost_msg {
      int type;
      union {
          struct vhost_iotlb_msg iotlb;
          __u8 padding[64];
      };
};

struct vhost_msg_v2 {
      __u32 type;
      __u32 reserved;
      union {
          struct vhost_iotlb_msg iotlb;
          __u8 padding[64];
      };
};
Oh ok.  So with a real device, I suspect we do not want to wait for each
change to be processed by device completely, so we might want an asynchronous variant
and then some kind of flush that tells device "you better apply these now".

Let me explain:

There are two types of devices:

1) device without on-chip IOMMU, DMA was done via IOMMU API which only
support incremental map/unmap
Most IOMMUs have queues nowdays though. Whether APIs within kernel
expose that matters but we are better off on emulating
hardware not specific guest behaviour.


Last time I checked Intel IOMMU driver, I see the async QI is not used there. And I'm not sure how queue will help much here. Qemu still need to wait for all the DMA is setup to let guest work.



2) device with on-chip IOMMU, DMA could be done by device driver itself, and
we could choose to pass the whole mappings to the driver at one time through
vDPA bus operation (set_map)

For vhost-vpda, there're two types of memory mapping:

a) memory table, setup by userspace through VHOST_SET_MEM_TABLE, the whole
mapping is updated in this way
b) IOTLB API, incrementally done by userspace through vhost message
(IOTLB_UPDATE/IOTLB_INVALIDATE)

The current design is:

- Reuse VHOST_SET_MEM_TABLE, and for type 1), we can choose to send diffs
through IOMMU API or flush all the mappings then map new ones. For type 2),
just send the whole mapping through set_map()
I know that at least for RDMA based things, you can't change
a mapping if it's active. So drivers will need to figure out the
differences which just looks ugly: userspace knows what
it was changing (really just adding/removing some guest memory).


Two methods:

1) using IOTLB message VHOST_IOTLB_UPDATE/INVALIDATE
2) let vhost differs from two memory tables which should not be too hard (compare two rb trees)





- Reuse vhost IOTLB, so for type 1), simply forward update/invalidate
request via IOMMU API, for type 2), send IOTLB to vDPA device driver via
set_map(), device driver may choose to send diffs or rebuild all mapping at
their will

Technically we can use vhost IOTLB API (map/umap) for building
VHOST_SET_MEM_TABLE, but to avoid device to process the each request, it
looks to me we need new UAPI which seems sub optimal.

What's you thought?

Thanks
I suspect we can't completely avoid a new UAPI.


AFAIK, memory table usually contain just few entries, the performance cost should be fine. (At least should be the same as the case of VFIO).

So in qemu, simply hooking add_region/remove_region to VHOST_IOTLB_UPDATE/VHOST_IOTLB_INVALIDATE should work?

If we introduce API like you proposed previously (memory listener style):

begin
add
remove
commit

I suspect it will be too heavweight for the case of vIOMMU and for the driver that want to build new mapping, we need addnop etc...

Thanks




_______________________________________________
Virtualization mailing list
Virtualization@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/virtualization




[Index of Archives]     [KVM Development]     [Libvirt Development]     [Libvirt Users]     [CentOS Virtualization]     [Netdev]     [Ethernet Bridging]     [Linux Wireless]     [Kernel Newbies]     [Security]     [Linux for Hams]     [Netfilter]     [Bugtraq]     [Yosemite Forum]     [MIPS Linux]     [ARM Linux]     [Linux RAID]     [Linux Admin]     [Samba]

  Powered by Linux