On 2019/7/19 10:36, Jason Wang wrote: > > On 2019/7/18 下午10:43, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:42:47AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: >>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:01:05PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote: >>>> On 2019/7/18 下午9:04, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: >>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 12:55:50PM +0000, ? jiang wrote: >>>>>> This change makes ring buffer reclaim threshold num_free >>>>>> configurable >>>>>> for better performance, while it's hard coded as 1/2 * queue now. >>>>>> According to our test with qemu + dpdk, packet dropping happens when >>>>>> the guest is not able to provide free buffer in avail ring timely. >>>>>> Smaller value of num_free does decrease the number of packet >>>>>> dropping >>>>>> during our test as it makes virtio_net reclaim buffer earlier. >>>>>> >>>>>> At least, we should leave the value changeable to user while the >>>>>> default value as 1/2 * queue is kept. >>>>>> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: jiangkidd<jiangkidd@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> That would be one reason, but I suspect it's not the >>>>> true one. If you need more buffer due to jitter >>>>> then just increase the queue size. Would be cleaner. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> However are you sure this is the reason for >>>>> packet drops? Do you see them dropped by dpdk >>>>> due to lack of space in the ring? As opposed to >>>>> by guest? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Besides those, this patch depends on the user to choose a suitable >>>> threshold >>>> which is not good. You need either a good value with demonstrated >>>> numbers or >>>> something smarter. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>> I do however think that we have a problem right now: try_fill_recv can >>> take up a long time during which net stack does not run at all. Imagine >>> a 1K queue - we are talking 512 packets. That's exceessive. > > > Yes, we will starve a fast host in this case. > > >>> napi poll >>> weight solves a similar problem, so it might make sense to cap this at >>> napi_poll_weight. >>> >>> Which will allow tweaking it through a module parameter as a >>> side effect :) Maybe just do NAPI_POLL_WEIGHT. >> Or maybe NAPI_POLL_WEIGHT/2 like we do at half the queue ;). Please >> experiment, measure performance and let the list know >> >>> Need to be careful though: queues can also be small and I don't >>> think we >>> want to exceed queue size / 2, or maybe queue size - napi_poll_weight. >>> Definitely must not exceed the full queue size. > > > Looking at intel, it uses 16 and i40e uses 32. It looks to me > NAPI_POLL_WEIGHT/2 is better. > > Jiang, want to try that and post a new patch? > > Thanks > > >>> >>> -- >>> MST We did have completed several rounds of test with setting the value to budget (64 as the default value). It does improve a lot with pps is below 400pps for a single stream. Let me consolidate the data and will send it soon. Actually, we are confident that it runs out of free buffer in avail ring when packet dropping happens with below systemtap: Just a snippet: probe module("virtio_ring").function("virtqueue_get_buf") { x = (@cast($_vq, "vring_virtqueue")->vring->used->idx)- (@cast($_vq, "vring_virtqueue")->last_used_idx) ---> we use this one to verify if the queue is full, which means guest is not able to take buffer from the queue timely if (x<0 && (x+65535)<4096) x = x+65535 if((x==1024) && @cast($_vq, "vring_virtqueue")->vq->callback == callback_addr) netrxcount[x] <<< gettimeofday_s() } probe module("virtio_ring").function("virtqueue_add_inbuf") { y = (@cast($vq, "vring_virtqueue")->vring->avail->idx)- (@cast($vq, "vring_virtqueue")->vring->used->idx) ---> we use this one to verify if we run out of free buffer in avail ring if (y<0 && (y+65535)<4096) y = y+65535 if(@2=="debugon") { if(y==0 && @cast($vq, "vring_virtqueue")->vq->callback == callback_addr) { netrxfreecount[y] <<< gettimeofday_s() printf("no avail ring left seen, printing most recent 5 num free, vq: %lx, current index: %d\n", $vq, recentfreecount) for(i=recentfreecount; i!=((recentfreecount+4) % 5); i=((i+1) % 5)) { printf("index: %d, num free: %d\n", i, recentfree[$vq, i]) } printf("index: %d, num free: %d\n", i, recentfree[$vq, i]) //exit() } } } probe module("virtio_net").statement("virtnet_receive@drivers/net/virtio_net.c:732") { recentfreecount++ recentfreecount = recentfreecount % 5 recentfree[$rq->vq, recentfreecount] = $rq->vq->num_free ---> record the num_free for the last 5 calls to virtnet_receive, so we can see if lowering the bar helps. } Here is the result: no avail ring left seen, printing most recent 5 num free, vq: ffff9c13c1200000, current index: 1 index: 1, num free: 561 index: 2, num free: 305 index: 3, num free: 369 index: 4, num free: 433 index: 0, num free: 497 no avail ring left seen, printing most recent 5 num free, vq: ffff9c13c1200000, current index: 1 index: 1, num free: 543 index: 2, num free: 463 index: 3, num free: 469 index: 4, num free: 476 index: 0, num free: 479 no avail ring left seen, printing most recent 5 num free, vq: ffff9c13c1200000, current index: 2 index: 2, num free: 555 index: 3, num free: 414 index: 4, num free: 420 index: 0, num free: 427 index: 1, num free: 491 You can see in the last 4 calls to virtnet_receive before we run out of free buffer and start to relaim, num_free is quite high. So if we can do the reclaim earlier, it will certainly help. Meanwhile, the patch I proposed actually keeps the default value as 1/2 * queue. So the default behavior remains and only leave the interface to advanced users, who really understands what they are doing. Also, the best value may vary in different environment. Do you still think hardcoding this is better option? Jiang _______________________________________________ Virtualization mailing list Virtualization@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/virtualization