On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 8:17 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 11:53:41AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote: > > > > On 2019/1/7 上午11:28, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 10:19:03AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote: > > > > On 2019/1/3 上午4:47, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 08:46:51PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote: > > > > > > This series tries to access virtqueue metadata through kernel virtual > > > > > > address instead of copy_user() friends since they had too much > > > > > > overheads like checks, spec barriers or even hardware feature > > > > > > toggling. > > > > > Will review, thanks! > > > > > One questions that comes to mind is whether it's all about bypassing > > > > > stac/clac. Could you please include a performance comparison with > > > > > nosmap? > > > > > > > > > On machine without SMAP (Sandy Bridge): > > > > > > > > Before: 4.8Mpps > > > > > > > > After: 5.2Mpps > > > OK so would you say it's really unsafe versus safe accesses? > > > Or would you say it's just a better written code? > > > > > > It's the effect of removing speculation barrier. > > > You mean __uaccess_begin_nospec introduced by > commit 304ec1b050310548db33063e567123fae8fd0301 > ? > > So fundamentally we do access_ok checks when supplying > the memory table to the kernel thread, and we should > do the spec barrier there. > > Then we can just create and use a variant of uaccess macros that does > not include the barrier? > > Or, how about moving the barrier into access_ok? > This way repeated accesses with a single access_ok get a bit faster. > CC Dan Williams on this idea. It would be interesting to see how expensive re-doing the address limit check is compared to the speculation barrier. I.e. just switch vhost_get_user() to use get_user() rather than __get_user(). That will sanitize the pointer in the speculative path without a barrier. I recall we had a convert access_ok() discussion with this result here: https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/1/17/929 ...but it sounds like you are proposing a smaller scope fixup for the vhost use case? Something like barrier_nospec() in the success path for all vhost access_ok() checks and then a get_user() variant that disables the barrier. _______________________________________________ Virtualization mailing list Virtualization@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/virtualization
