On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 2:27 AM Christoph Hellwig <hch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 02:06:28PM -0700, Daniel Verkamp wrote: > > From: Changpeng Liu <changpeng.liu@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > In commit 88c85538, "virtio-blk: add discard and write zeroes features > > to specification" (https://github.com/oasis-tcs/virtio-spec), the virtio > > There is some issues in this spec. For one using the multiple ranges > also for write zeroes is rather inefficient. Write zeroes really should > use the same format as read and write. I wasn't involved in the writing of the spec, so I'll defer to Michael and Changpeng here, but I'm not sure how "set in stone" the virtio specification is, or if it can be updated somehow without breaking compatibility. I agree that Write Zeroes would be simpler to implement as a single LBA + length rather than a list. However, it's not really possible to use the same format as the regular virtio block read/write commands (VIRTIO_BLK_T_IN/VIRTIO_BLK_T_OUT), since the read/write commands do not specify a length explicitly; length is implied by the length of the data buffer as defined by the virtio descriptor, but a Write Zeroes command does not require a data buffer. At best, this could be a separate command mirroring the layout of struct virtio_blk_req but with data replaced with a length field; I'm not sure that buys much in the way of consistency. > Second the unmap flag isn't properly specified at all, as nothing > says the device may not unmap without the unmap flag. Please take > a look at the SCSI or NVMe ѕpec for some guidance. This could probably use some clarifying text in the specification, but given that there is nothing in the spec describing what the device needs to do when unmap = 0, I would assume that the device can do whatever it likes, as long as the blocks read back as 0s afterwards. Reading back 0s is required by the definition of the Write Zeroes command in the same virtio spec change. It would probably be good to clarify this and explicitly define what the device is allowed to do in response to both settings of the unmap bit. My understanding of the corresponding feature in NVMe (the Deallocate bit in the Write Zeroes command) is that the only difference between Deallocate = 1 and 0 is that the device "should" versus "may" (no "shall" on either side) deallocate the corresponding blocks, but only if the device supports reading 0s back after blocks are deallocated. If the device does not support reading 0s after deallocation, it is not allowed to deallocate blocks as part of a Write Zeroes command regardless of the setting of the Deallocate bit. Some similar wording could probably be added to the virtio spec to clarify the meaning of unmap, although I would prefer something that makes it a little clearer that the bit is only intended as a hint from the driver to indicate whether the device should attempt to keep storage allocated for the zeroed blocks, if that is indeed the intended behavior. Is there some in-kernel doc that describes what behavior the Linux block layer needs from a write zeroes command? > > +static inline int virtblk_setup_discard_write_zeroes(struct request *req, > > + bool unmap) > > Why is this an inline function? I don't think there's any reason it needs to be inline; I can drop the inline in the next revision. Given (as far as I can tell) your concerns seem to apply to the Write Zeroes command specifically, would it be reasonable to start with a patch that just adds support for the Discard command (along with fixes for Ming's feedback)? This would be sufficient for my particular use case (although I can't speak for Changpeng), and we can revisit Write Zeroes once the spec concerns are worked out. Thanks, -- Daniel _______________________________________________ Virtualization mailing list Virtualization@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/virtualization
