Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 03:04:26AM CEST, dsahern@xxxxxxxxx wrote: >On 4/3/18 9:42 AM, Jiri Pirko wrote: >>> >>> There are other use cases that want to hide a device from userspace. I >> >> What usecases do you have in mind? > >As mentioned in a previous response some kernel drivers create control >netdevs. Just as in this case users should not be mucking with it, and virtio_net. Any other drivers? >S/W like lldpd should ignore it. It's just a matter of identification of the netdevs, so the user knows what to do. > >> >>> would prefer a better solution than playing games with name prefixes and >>> one that includes an API for users to list all devices -- even ones >>> hidden by default. >> >> Netdevice hiding feels a bit scarry for me. This smells like a workaround >> for userspace issues. Why can't the netdevice be visible always and >> userspace would know what is it and what should it do with it? >> >> Once we start with hiding, there are other things related to that which >> appear. Like who can see what, levels of visibility etc... >> > >I would not advocate for any API that does not allow users to have full >introspection. The intent is to hide the netdev by default but have an >option to see it. As an administrator, I want to see all by default. I think it is reasonable requirements. Again, this awfully smells like a workaround... _______________________________________________ Virtualization mailing list Virtualization@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/virtualization