Re: [PATCH] virtio: Try to untangle DMA coherency

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On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 08:49:41PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 06:31:18PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 08:17:16PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 04:40:49PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 06:30:28PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > I am inclined to say, for 4.10 let's revert
> > > > > c7070619f3408d9a0dffbed9149e6f00479cf43b since what it fixes is not a
> > > > > regression in 4.10.
> > > > 
> > > > No complaints there, as long as we can keep working to fix this for 4.11
> > > > and onwards. You'll also need to cc stable on the revert.
> > > > 
> > > > > So I think we can defer the fix to 4.11.
> > > > > I think we still want f7f6634d23830ff74335734fbdb28ea109c1f349
> > > > > for hosts with virtio 1 support.
> > > > > 
> > > > > All this will hopefully push hosts to just implement virtio 1.
> > > > > For mmio the changes are very small: several new registers,
> > > > > that's all. You want this for proper 64 bit dma mask anyway.
> > > > 
> > > > As I've said, virtio 1 will have exactly the same issue unless we start
> > > > requiring firmware to advertise dma-coherent/_CCA for virtio-mmio
> > > > devices correctly.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > OK I read up on _CCA in ACPI spec. It says:
> > > The _CCA object returns whether or not a bus-master device supports
> > > hardware managed cache coherency. Expected values are 0 to indicate it
> > > is not supported, and 1 to indicate that it is supported.
> > > 
> > > So if host is cache coherent, and guest thinks it isn't, we incur
> > > unnecessary overhead by wasting coherent memory.
> > > I get that but you said it actually breaks - why does it?
> > 
> > It breaks because QEMU doesn't set _CCA for virtio-mmio devices, and that
> > only becomes a problem when we use the DMA API, because that results in the
> > guest taking out a non-cacheable mapping. On ARM (and other archs such as
> > Power), having a mismatch between a cacheable and a non-cacheable mapping
> > can result in a loss of coherency between the two (for example, if the
> > non-cacheable gues accesses bypass the cache, but the cacheable host
> > accesses allocate in the cache).
> > 
> I see. And I guess using a cacheable mapping is significantly faster.
> I would say we want to typically use cacheable for virtio then,
> whether we bypass the IOMMU or not. I guess this is why we always set
> _CCA/DT correctly, right?

At the moment, _CCA/DT is pretty much never set correctly for virtio-mmio
(that is, it isn't set even though the device is cache coherent). If it
*was* set correctly, then we wouldn't have needed to revert my patch.

Robin's patch to only use the DMA API if _CCA/DT is present would work
(although the thing that he posted was buggy iirc).

Will
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