Hi Will, On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:16:09PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:03:22PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 04:42:43PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 01:58:53PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > > > PPC Overlapping Group-B sets version 4 > > > > "" > > > > (* When the Group-B sets from two different barriers involve instructions in > > > > the same thread, within that thread one set must contain the other. > > > > > > > > P0 P1 P2 > > > > Rx=1 Wy=1 Wz=2 > > > > dep. lwsync lwsync > > > > Ry=0 Wz=1 Wx=1 > > > > Rz=1 > > > > > > > > assert(!(z=2)) > > > > > > > > Forbidden by ppcmem, allowed by herd. > > > > *) > > > > { > > > > 0:r1=x; 0:r2=y; 0:r3=z; > > > > 1:r1=x; 1:r2=y; 1:r3=z; 1:r4=1; > > > > 2:r1=x; 2:r2=y; 2:r3=z; 2:r4=1; 2:r5=2; > > > > } > > > > P0 | P1 | P2 ; > > > > lwz r6,0(r1) | stw r4,0(r2) | stw r5,0(r3) ; > > > > xor r7,r6,r6 | lwsync | lwsync ; > > > > lwzx r7,r7,r2 | stw r4,0(r3) | stw r4,0(r1) ; > > > > lwz r8,0(r3) | | ; > > > > > > > > exists > > > > (z=2 /\ 0:r6=1 /\ 0:r7=0 /\ 0:r8=1) > > > > > > That really hurts. Assuming that the "assert(!(z=2))" is actually there > > > to constrain the coherence order of z to be {0->1->2}, then I think that > > > this test is forbidden on arm using dmb instead of lwsync. That said, I > > > also don't think the Rz=1 in P0 changes anything. > > > > What about the smp_wmb() variant of dmb that orders only stores? > > Tricky, but I think it still works out if the coherence order of z is as > I described above. The line of reasoning is weird though -- I ended up > considering the two cases where P0 reads z before and after it reads x ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Because of the fact that two reads on the same processors can't be executed simultaneously? I feel like this is exactly something herd missed. > and what that means for the read of y. > And the reasoning on PPC is similar, so looks like the read of z on P0 is a necessary condition for the exists clause to be forbidden. Regards, Boqun > Will
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