Re: [Xen-users] Re: [Xen-devel] State of Xen in upstream Linux

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On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Grant McWilliams wrote:
>>
>>
>>     > Fedora 9's kernel-xen package has been based on the mainline
>>     kernel from
>>     > the outset, but it is still packaged as a separate kernel.
>>      kernel-xen
>>     > has been dropped from rawhide (what will become Fedora 10), and
>>     all Xen
>>     > support - both 32 and 64 bit - has been rolled into the main kernel
>>     > package.
>>
>>
>> Does this mean in the future all Fedora kernels will be Xen kernels?
>> Is this wise? If I try to run VirtualBox on a Xen kernel the machine
>> will reboot. If the Vbox module is loaded at runtime it will reboot
>> forever. Yes, I know it's a Vbox issue but what about KVM. Can we run
>> KVM on a Xen kernel?
>>
>> Or am I reading this completely wrong?
>
> If you boot the kernel on bare hardware, the Xen parts of the kernel
> will basically be switched off, and play no part in runtime.  All
> hardware features and device drivers should be available as normal.  I
> run kvm on pvops/xen kernels all the time.
>
> If you boot the kernel under Xen, then VT/SVM will not be available, and
> any kernel module which tries to use them - like kvm or (I presume)
> virtualbox - should quietly get out of the way.  If they cause the
> domain to crash, then that's a bug in those modules.
>
> If by "the machine will reboot" you mean that the whole system crashes,
> then that's definitely a bug in Xen which should be fixed.  It should
> never be possible for a domU to crash the system.
>
>    J
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Jeremy: Mr. Grant speaking about the future where Linux (2.6.28?)
mainline kernel will support Xen Dom0, not kernel 2.6.27, which only
improves Xen DomU.

And I agree with Grant, that if Linux mainline will have Dom0
included, that may cause problems for all kinds of drivers.

As for 2.6.27, it shouldn't cause any new problems.

-- 
-Alexey Eromenko "Technologov"
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