On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 10:25:20AM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > What I recall observing is call traces that made no sense. Not just > extra noise in the stack trace but things like seeing a function that > has exactly one path to it, and not seeing all of the functions on > that path in the call trace. That's tail call/sibling call optimization. No unwinder can untangle that because the return address is lost. But it's also an quite important optimization. > > > > In 2.4 it was often very reasonable to just sort out the false positives, > > but with sometimes 20-30+ level deep call chains in 2.6 with many callbacks that > > just > > gets far too tenuous. > > Hmm. I haven't seen those traces, but I wonder if the size of those > stack traces indicates potential stack overflow problems. Most functions have quite small frames, so 20-30 is still not a problem > Do you also validate the unwind data? There are many sanity checks in the unwind code and it will fall back to the old unwinder when it gets stuck. > > > Although in future it would be good if people did some more analysis in root > > causes for failures before let the paranoia take over and revert patches. > > > > We see a good example here of what I call the JFS/ACPI effect: code gets merged > > too early with some visible problems. It gets a bad name and afterwards people > > never look objectively at it again and just trust their prejudices. > > I don't know. The impression I got was the root cause analysis stopped > when it was observed that the code was unsuitable for solving the problem. No, me and Jan fixed all reported bugs as far as I know. -Andi _______________________________________________ Virtualization mailing list Virtualization@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/virtualization