Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] usb: add is_usb_mouse routine and remote wakeup quirk

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On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 01:07:36AM +0800, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 04:09:32PM +0800, Huang Rui wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 11:38:28AM +0800, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 11:13:12AM +0800, Huang Rui wrote:
> > 
> > Yes, you're right. This issue is specific to the devices that use
> > Pixart controller, and the Pixart controller is only used by mouse.
> > That's why I filtered for usb mouse.
> 
> So, to "fix" one specific controller, you drag in hundreds of thousands
> of other devices as well?  That's not ok.
> 
> > Below answer is our HW guys' feedback. In cover letter, you would see
> > more details.
> 
> cover letters don't get applied to the kernel changelog, so they don't
> count for much :)
> 
> > [Q] Why the special devices are only mice? Would high speed devices
> > such as 3G modem or USB Bluetooth adapter trigger this issue?
> > - Current this sensitivity is only confined to devices that use Pixart
> >   controllers. This controller is designed for use with LS mouse
> > devices only. We have not observed any other devices failing. There
> > may be a small risk for other devices also but this patch (reset
> > device in resume phase) will cover the cases if required.
> 
> Then just do this "quirk" for Pixart controller devices.  Don't penalize
> everyone else.
> 
> And have you worked with the Pixart company to "fix" this issue so that
> future devices they create don't have this issue in it?
> 
> > > That's why the USB core doesn't care about the device type, they are all
> > > just "pipes".  So please deal with it on that level, never do something
> > > only depending on the "type" of device plugged into the system.
> > > 
> > 
> > I got it. Do you mean if I want do filter usb devices by usb mouse, I
> > should do it at hid or usbhid level?
> 
> Neither, you could "miss" a mouse at those levels as well.
> 
> Think about userspace control of USB devices, as well as mice that don't
> use the HID layer (rare, but I've seen it happen.)
> 
> Again, don't filter for a "mouse", filter for the controller that you
> need to fix.
> 
> > > Hint, I bet you didn't fix this bug in Windows this way, right?  :)
> > > 
> > 
> > Actually, this issue is found in Windows firstly, and we set a
> > registry to force the driver to reset the device on S3 resume to work
> > around it. Then I reproduce it in Linux OS, and make a same solution. :)
> 
> So on Windows you do this for all mice devices?  Or just Pixart devices?
> If all mice devices, the Windows developers accepted such a change?
> 

Windows has a backdoor of "force to reset on resume" in regedit like
our kernel config. So it doesn't need change codes, just enable the
backdoor. I don't know the details, I focus on linux usb driver.

Thanks,
Rui

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